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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 07:13:56 -1000 Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 40 Message-ID: <87v7yjpsff.fsf@localhost> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <1r0e6u9.1tubjrt1kapeluN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <llgckbF2sq0U3@mid.individual.net> <vcuupr$2pg09$1@paganini.bofh.team> <156256844.748909906.434683.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <%8JIO.96319$WtV9.92746@fx10.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 19:14:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f86401bc72d7cfc34c5731e9e5953e36"; logging-data="3958792"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Hoi10gwe3PXsL/IJzYnoUdeyd15ZsbVY=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VyXAQNr2xHNvBj9qi+SwNUuXtgo= sha1:xjQV2loNeDh/3viUi5zLNh6t20A= Bytes: 3156 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: > FORTRAN was even worse, at least in the bad old days. > Porting Adventure and Dungeon from the PDP-11 to > Univac's 360 workalikes was lots of fun. Not only > were there a lot of DECisms (RAD50 constants, anyone?) > but I had to convert ASCII to EBCDIC (including > decrypting the message file, translating it, and > re-encrypting it). But I _really_ wanted to play > Dungeon, and I didn't have access to a PDP-11... trivia: 360s were originally suppose to be ascii machines, but the ASCII unit record machines weren't ready so they were going to (temporarily) use BCD gear and EBCDIC. biggest computer goof ever: https://web.archive.org/web/20180513184025/http://www.bobbemer.com/P-BIT.HTM I used to drop by TYMSHARE and/or see them at monthly meetings hosted at STANFORD SLAC. They had made their CMS-based online computer conferencing system available "free" to SHARE in Aug1976 as VMSHARE archvies: http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare I cut a deal to get monthly tape dump of all VMSHARE (and later PCSHARE) files to make available on IBM internal network and systems (one difficulty was lawyers who were concerned that internal employees would be contaminated exposed to direct/unfiltered customer information. one visit to TYMSHARE they demo'ed a game (ADVENTURE) that somebody found on Stanford SAIL PDP10 and ported to CMS. I got full full source and made it (also) available on on internal network and systems. I would send source to anybody that could demonstrate they got all the points. Relatively shortly, versions with lots more points appear as well as PLI versions. Colossal Cave Adventure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossal_Cave_Adventure Adventure Game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_game -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970