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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 22:43:40 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <87v8036fqr.fsf@tudado.org> References: <uvej5e$34pfl$8@dont-email.me> <v7mdjl$pq7n$3@dont-email.me> <nbcu9j5d7r8gbdngudbti83dg4agsl6knb@4ax.com> <lg948dF3fs6U1@mid.individual.net> <od21ajlllvqe32gi543hkft3lnhv2n3tus@4ax.com> <lgbo1lFfno3U1@mid.individual.net> <20240724115828.5d9d85d9305fe8300a91db5d@g{oogle}mail.com> <fdc6b7b9-b22a-0fa3-83c7-1710be288c51@example.net> <v7ru4n$1u14m$1@dont-email.me> <8d1b685c-e9df-a91b-61a2-137d60a2497e@example.net> <v8s9vk$1ci0e$1@dont-email.me> <toolmakers-20240806145434@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v8ue8n$1uv83$1@dont-email.me> <wwvfrrgrci1.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <v95l54$2t8tp$1@dont-email.me> <ba2b4937-c689-7105-b628-62d97e7edf10@example.net> <v98e2j$sgtk$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 03:43:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0cf6c2d404dfac420ed8cc4c7596c2ce"; logging-data="168552"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Urz887n3ovlu7Us0IT5FDsqE72Rr7kPA=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:LyuR6EqF3V9PoQQSse9S8M8cBDU= sha1:c1+iRcJ9+4xgQ78fJN96YDrY/DA= Bytes: 3589 The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes: > On 8/9/24 1:28 PM, D wrote: >> >> On Fri, 9 Aug 2024, The Real Bev wrote: >> >>> On 8/7/24 12:57 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote: >>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes: >>>>> On 8/6/24 6:55 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: >>>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote or quoted: >>>>>>> What happens when there are no more toolmakers? >>>>>> Well, if by "toolmakers" you mean those devs cranking out text >>>>>> editors, search engines, or AI chatbots: We're swimming in them these >>>>>> days, more than ever before in human history! So I'd say: I'll cross >>>>>> that bridge when I come to it, if we ever actually run low on those >>>>>> folks. (Sure, some tech fields are hurting for talent, but that's >>>>>> probably not because of the new AI chatbots hitting the scene.) >>>>> I mean people who have serious work to do and know how to make a >>>>> computer do it for them. REAL experts. If there are only people who >>>>> know how to use the tools already provided for them, who will make NEW >>>>> tools? >>>> Obviously nobody. But it’s a hypothetical situation which isn’t >>>> about to >>>> happen. >>> >>> I'm not so sure. I look at the general dumbing down of our (and >>> apparently non-USA) population and wonder if there are enough >>> intelligent people left to make a difference. Look at the >>> schools. Loot at the governments. Look at the media. Is there any >>> reason to be optimistic? >>> >> In my case... short term no, long term, yes. We've survived, as a >> species, >> world wars, famines, pestilence. Anything we're seeing today is nothing in >> comparison. > > We've never had as many people on earth as we have today, and there > will be more. At least in cities the big problem is just too many > people, most of them pretty stupid. Are you aware of current fertility rates? Check it out.