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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: modifiable backplane with sockets? Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 13:55:32 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 61 Message-ID: <87y0ugcsdn.fsf@librehacker.com> References: <87v7plzmzf.fsf@librehacker.com> <1017fdp$3bak2$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 23:55:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="129c5cb712918821b3d44ac7d488050b"; logging-data="3638540"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ZYDQgkHyr8bgQIhYgy0bINCxcgKIpga0=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:c+Rm/12KaaTDy5eAVG5mWEZHNcE= sha1:h0ypCp21gPNQ6kFtWmO/4DhtQK8= > How are you planning on supporting these cards? What sort of masses > involved? Any connections to the opposite end of the card (that would > add to the stress on such a "socket")? I was imagining that they would be fairly small cards, something like 5mm wide by 6 or 7 mm long, with lightweight components only on the card — small ICs, resistors, and such like. Certainly much smaller and lighter than something like a graphics card. Nothing on the opposite end of the card. My original thought was to have the cables to the patch panel(s) hook directly into a socket as well, but maybe I could have a shorter cable going from that to some kind of plug in port on the chassis. > Are you certain that (analog!) signal integrity won't be an issue with > this approach? The frequencies and signal levels involved (as you > likely will be severely constrained as to HOW a signal can be routed > from "socket A" to "socket F") I'm working always at low frequencies, like 100 Hz or less. The simulations usually display on an oscilloscope at around 1 second per scan, or slower. > Are your modules going to use printed wiring? I.e., does the "plug" > that mates to these sockets mount *onto* the card? Can you use > fingers, instead (more costly to manufacture; why pay a PCB house to > plate them when you can purchase a "plug/socket" that is already > plated) > The plug would mount onto the card, unless I was using just contacts that slide in. I am open minded to ideas. I don't really want to use printed wiring, preferring to experiment/design/build as I go. But I'm not really sure a practical way to do that outside of a breadboard. Maybe I can come up with some kind of generic printed board that gives me some flexibility on how I solder on ICs and wires. > How durable do you want the finished assembly to be? I.e., are you > just trying to use it to mock-up designs? Or, are you intending to > *deploy* a system thusly assembled? How fussy can you be in assembling > (and disassembling) such a configuration -- how durable do the > connectors need to be? It would just sit on my desk. I'd need to be able to slide in/out or (dis)connect the module cards without anything breaking. After assembly, I would mostly be interacting with just the patch panel, not the cards, but I'd want to be able to take cards out to tweak them, or replace them. > wouldn't need to be part of a "backplane PCB" but could just be > fastened to a support member spaced appropriately from its neighbor(s) > Ah, okay, so I could just screw that onto some support structure, then wire wrap to those long posts. Assuming the posts are strong enough to endure wire wrapping. -- Christopher Howard