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Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> writes:

> On 1/21/2025 12:38 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/21/2025 11:12 AM, Shadow wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 09:07:20 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/21/2025 7:01 AM, Shadow wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 12:48:33 +0100, Rolf Mantel
>>>>> <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> San Francisco or Oakland to LA is only an hour on commercial
>>>>>>> aircraft. The same to Las Vegas and only a half hour more to Arizona
>>>>>>> and only a half hour more than that to Denver. Trains simply do not
>>>>>>> work with the distances between major cities in the US. Too bad, I
>>>>>>> do like railroads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the contrary, exactly those are the distances that work on
>>>>>> high- speed
>>>>>> trains.  "One hour on commercial aricraft" means a total
>>>>>> travelling time
>>>>>> of approx. three hours "city-center to city-center"; a "2:40 non-stop
>>>>>> travel time" by train as planned on completion of phase 1 would
>>>>>> kill the
>>>>>> air market completely.
>>>>>
>>>>>     I agree. You waste over an hour going to the airport and
>>>>> passing through the secret state police. And when you reach your
>>>>> destination, it's usually at least 30 mins to the center of town. Two
>>>>> wasted hours.
>>>>>     I presume train passengers would not be subject to "homeland
>>>>> insecurity" groping. Unless one of the CEO's from the "air market"
>>>>> paid someone to plant a bomb. The usual "take me to Cuba" excuse would
>>>>> not work.
>>>>>     []'s
>>>>
>>>> That's not right.
>>>>
>>>> Here, the Stasi have infested the trains as well:
>>>> https://www.amtrak.com/tickets-id-safety-security
>>>
>>>     That's about crossing borders to another country. I think
>>> that's reasonable. Lots of criminals try to avoid prosecution by
>>> crossing borders .... over 100 of Bolsonaro's followers fled to the
>>> US. I have no idea how they got permits, most of them do not work, and
>>> many of them are criminals linked to drugs trafficking, prostitution,
>>> money laundering and contraband.
>>>
>>>     I mean being searched to travel in your own country.... that
>>> should not happen in a "free" country.
>>>>
>>>> I do not go to airports, and even to pick up or drop off
>>>> someone; I remain in my car in the parking area.
>>>
>>>     Well, I used to have to travel by plane.
>>>     When traveling in Brazil I prefer 1) A train - if available.
>>> There are very few passenger trains left
>>>     2) A bus. They are usually comfortable and have air
>>> conditioning.
>>>     3) Ugggh a plane
>>>
>>>     That's if I have transport on the other end. If I don't, I
>>> just drive there. Trouble is, I'm getting too old to drive. The most I
>>> can stay awake is about 12 hours. Then I just curl up and go to sleep.
>>> I've woken up in a stalled car twice in the last 10 years....
>>>     []'s
>> Domestic Amtrak security protocols:
>> https://www.ncesc.com/does-amtrak-have-security-check/
>> 
>
> Well, that's not true at all. It may be a stated policy, but it's not
> in use by any stretch of the imagination.
>
> My father likes to visit my sister in Georgia twice a year and is
> partial to the Amtrak from Boston to Savannah (he transfers in either
> new york, philidehphia, and DC, depending on the times he traveled)
>
> I drive him to the Amtrak station in Boston.  I help him with his
> luggage to the platform, help him on the train, and make sure the
> attendants understand his health issues. Upon his return I reverse the
> process. We've been doing this for three years now (2x a year), and
> not once has there ever been a security checkpoint or any attempt by
> any TSA or Amtrak employees to screen him or me, check his or my ID,
> or any attempt to restrict my movement in the terminal or getting on
> the train even without a ticket. My sister has a similar experience in
> Savannah.
>
> They may reserve the right to enforce some sort of security protocol,
> but they haven't done it in either Boston or Savannah in the past 3
> years.

That was my experience boarding in Albany as well.  I had brought a
passport thinking they might go all read-id on me, but in the event they
didn't check a thing.  Could change overnight, who knows.



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