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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Relativity Derives Zero Deflection of Light By Gravity. Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 05:22:31 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <890a408bcdec1d8d813126edb227c343@www.novabbs.com> References: <9f779645de1a83b1f2f35ab0a1885329@www.novabbs.com> <6c677b972f6579892c33b8604d495734@www.novabbs.com> <dc953486fe00737ac101b0808f4adc5f@www.novabbs.com> <b79df979e66ca025b42b54d01b3ffa76@www.novabbs.com> <4cb228952ad1393d1371788608f5ed9f@www.novabbs.com> <I5VnQCRBCASVHb8oVNJIPy8btWA@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1044231"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$o4hcsh8BOMBgMZWRrohab.e8olRPE8VufLz0bz703W/eE972hjN5W X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2603 Lines: 34 On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 2:03:24 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote: > Le 20/02/2025 à 23:39, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit > : >>> >>> This is just an elementary school formula which you never progressed >>> past. >>> You are like an adult that forever is stuck practising scales while >>> claiming Bach and Beethoven never existed. >>> >>> -- >>> Jan >>> >>> -- >> Everyone can see you cannot explain how anything can have momentum >> without mass. Resort to ad hominem is a failure to reason. > > Ad hominem attacks are unfortunately far too frequent. We don't explain > anything, we attack. > Here, I'm not sure that the attack is even scientifically justified, > because it is wrong to believe that there has been a fantastic evolution > of thought since p=mv. > Certainly the relativists understood that p=mv/sqrt(1-v²/c²) but there > is no need to shout glory to God from the rooftops. They don't even know > why, and most of them believe that it is mass that is relative, and not > the perception of speed. > Don't laugh, friends, I've been reading what scientists and social > networks say for 40 years. > And it's scary. > It's terrifyingly stupid. > > R.H. Of course, p=mv/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) still requires mass, and it is mistaken anyway. The state of physics is like a cloud of unknowing. I see that fog floating around Jan's head.