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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: A Bicycle Safety Parable Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 11:56:14 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <89bq9j9dtp08mamhg5ng28v6i90ujrn0e1@4ax.com> References: <v7gued$3l74a$1@dont-email.me> <v7gv2l$3l9bf$1@dont-email.me> <ll4o9jtbjqdm4snr1tlmsgaqd0s1sjtvas@4ax.com> <14dp9j1ha1s64g58tn1k5f4dep50ogilat@4ax.com> <1vgp9j9ln9pqrijflipvho4bm186qhdt56@4ax.com> <v7j8vp$4j07$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 17:56:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1efadcc9af78f7ff711d5c1c9cb32638"; logging-data="177880"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+osONIzu1oFk7HlHAaLOb8udpSBCJJusw=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:MLjuA1Y/jg6IzC1EHRYXUuok+eY= Bytes: 2327 On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 10:20:26 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 7/21/2024 3:19 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 09:11:58 +0200, Wolfgang Strobl >> <news5@mystrobl.de> wrote: >> >>> Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 15:46:53 -0400 schrieb Catrike Ryder >>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org>: >>> >>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:19:02 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 7/20/2024 1:08 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>> https://bicycledriving.com/law/a-bicycle-safety-parable >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> I fought those fights against The Planners all my life. And >>>>> lost every time. >>>> >>>> >>>> For what it's worth. I am opposed to any "bikeway" that is not >>>> totally isolated from vehicular traffic and parked cars (bike lanes). >>> >>> That is completely missing the point. >> >> I thought one of the points was about disliking bike lanes. > >I'm with Mr Strobl. > >Dedicated (non-MV) recreational paths are different in kind >from cyclist-eating traffic impediments, 'death chutes' and >so on. You missed my point. I also think bike lanes on streets and roads are terrible, no matter what color they're painted.