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From: tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog)
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Subject: Re: E =?UTF-8?B?PSAzLzQgbWPCsiBvciBFID0gbWPCsj8gVGhlIGZvcmdvdHRlbiBIYXNz?=
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 17:44:33 +0000, rhertz wrote:

> SOME CORRECTIONS TO THE PREVIOUS POST:
>
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 0:36:16 +0000, rhertz wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> From their paper, this is the balance (as published in 1932):
>>
>>
>> Lithium7 amu	7.0104
>> Hydrogen amu	1.0072
>> 	        8.0176
>>
>> Helium amu	4.0011
>> Helium amu	4.0011
>> 	        8.0022
>>
>
> Difference  Δamu = 0.0154 ± 0.003 amu = 14.3 MeV ± 2.8 MeV. To this, it
> has to be added an extra energy of 2.7 MeV
>
> Δamu varies between 0.0124 amu and 0.0187 amu.
>
> The total change in energy ΔE varies between 14.3 MeV and 19.8 MeV.
>
>
> It corresponds to equations:
>
> ΔE = 2/3 Δmc²  for 14.3 MeV
>
> ΔE = 7/5 Δmc²  for 19.8 MeV
>
> Authors claimed that momentum was accounted and conserved.
>
>
>
> These values are written, after hundred of experiments, following the
> relationship:
>
> 7:3 Li + 1:1 H ---> 4:2 He + 4:2 He + energy
>
> https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rspa.1932.0133
>
> This corresponds to the equation:
>
> Considering that momentum is conserved and the energy of the proton is
> 0.6 MeV, the final values are closer to Hassenohrl than to Einstein.
>
>
> Hardly an experimental verification of ΔE = Δmc², as relativists have
> claimed as this being the first experimental proof of such equation.

Modern measurements are much more accurate. For example,
https://www.nature.com/articles/4381096a
The full paper is also available online.

Many more measurements are consistent with E=mc^2, even if the
measurements are not from experiments specifically designed to
test the prediction. For instance, electron-positron annihilation
is routinely observed to result in 0.511 MeV gamma rays.

Do you honestly believe that some sort of conspiracy exists to
suppress measurements inconsistent with relativistic predictions?