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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a
 Liar?
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 18:49:47 -0400
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On 7/6/24 6:44 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 7/6/2024 5:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 7/6/24 6:20 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 7/6/2024 5:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 7/6/24 5:55 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 7/6/2024 4:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/6/24 5:40 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That requires HHH to report on what itself does before it does this,
>>>>>>> thus exactly the same you you never needing to buy groceries once
>>>>>>> you decide that you will do this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, because HHH is deterministic in behavior, 
>>>>>
>>>>> It cannot report on the effect of what it did before it does this
>>>>> otherwise we are back to you never needing to buy groceries as
>>>>> soon as you decide to go buy them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It MUST report on what it DOES. 
>>>
>>> Exactly. That means that it cannot report on the
>>> effect of something that it has not yet done.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> But all of its behavior comes into existance at once.
>>
> 
> So you disagree with sequence, selection and iteration?
> Might as well say that you don't believe in arithmetic
> as your rebuttal to 2 + 3 = 5.
> 

Why do you say that,

The program executes in sequence, but the BEHAVIOR, which the execution 
REVEALS is instantaneously created by determinism.

There is no limit to the speed that truth propagates.

You just don't seem to understand that concept.