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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: film.art@gmail.com (JanPB) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Relativistic definition Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 21:57:23 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <8ac3387ca40d794a17871893adfcf18d@www.novabbs.com> References: <i6e6RaE0RxCNtGlAaSfIYZlkB2s@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="130390"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="PFHx4vNUwg4V82jPHNtC8poebHXhUv1vbEkgQ31MVis"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 029cc7f3dcda181726743e5c10521a3a9f5bbe97 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$MBrKqYVKEO9LO1OKHxwPl.eXU0Dk8qN.0IQ/LmwG3Lw78jK26RbGO Bytes: 2817 Lines: 56 On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 15:44:59 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote: > > Here is a sentence from Dr. Hachel with which physicists do not agree at > all. > It's a shame. > When an individual disagrees with another individual on a scientific > theory or fact, it would be normal to ask the other party to sit down > and > explain why they are behaving in an outlandish-looking manner. , and why > it "thinks differently". > This would be a proof of logic and human coherence. > > "If two mobiles, one in simple Galilean movement, > the other in uniformly accelerated movement with a start at rest, > cross an identical space, in identical observable times, > then their proper times will be equal." This is false in general. > Where does the physicists' error come from? What error? > This comes from the confusion between two lines when they talk about > accelerated frames of reference. > Let's take the drawing on the left. It represents the relationship > between > proper time, improper time, and distance traveled. > This is very simple. > We have Tr(tau) on the ordinate, x/c on the abscissa, and To represented > by the red line. > > <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?i6e6RaE0RxCNtGlAaSfIYZlkB2s@jntp/Data.Media:1> > > The problem for physicists is that, on the other hand, they do not > understand the drawing on the right, we always have Tr, x/c, and To. This is basic calculus, the length of a curve. Why is this so confusing to you? > But physicists confuse the length of the blue line (which they take to > be > To) with the red line. The length of the blue line is the length of the blue line. Sorry but this is simply what it is. It's not equal to any of the straight chord lines lengths. > They therefore consider the Tr/To ratio larger than it is. Whatever. It makes no sense to proceed after all the errors you've made so far. -- Jan