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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: Poets of Revolt aka Free-Versers / Strange Bedfellows
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 02:45:07 +0000
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2024 21:07:35 +0000, Zod wrote:

> On Monday, October 17, 2024 at 1:28:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> General-Zod wrote:
>>
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>>>> Zod wrote:
>>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>> Zod wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> > > > > > Nice section in the book Strange Bedfellows (And "The History
>>>>>>> of Modern Poetry", Page 311 by David Perkins, which is where Steven
>>>>>>> Watson seems to have gotten most of his information) about the movement
>>>>>>> that took off around 1910 (and not before in any major way, although the
>>>>>>> form can be traced back as far as Beowulf, the writer claims) the "Poets
>>>>>>> of Revolt" aka "Free Versers".
>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound and Amy Lowell seem to me to be the most famous
>>>>>>> poets of this group. In 1912, Pound wrote "I believe in /Absolute
>>>>>>> Rhythm/, that is [...] poetry that corresponds exactly to the emotion
>>>>>>> being expressed..."
>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>> > > > > > The Poets of Revolt term was supposedly generic for the new
>>>>>>> poets, the writers of the 1910s also known as "free-versers" and vers
>>>>>>> librists, because they championed the rise of free verse, which replaced
>>>>>>> fixed stanzas, meter and rhyme with Absolute Rhythm, as Erza Pound
>>>>>>> called it.
>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>> > > > > > In addition, there were other distinctive factions during
>>>>>>> 1910-1917 and beyond...
>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>> > > > > > The Tramp Poets (!) aka Hobohemians, led by Vachel Lindsay,
>>>>>>> Harry Kemp and others, The Patagonians, Imagists and the Otherists all
>>>>>>> fit under the generic (and sometimes sneering) label of Poets of Revolt,
>>>>>>> the Free-Versers.
>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>> > > > > > Poets loosely associated with these groups included:
>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>> > > > > > Richard Aldington
>>>>>>> > > > > > Amy Lowell
>>>>>>> > > > > > Vacel Lindsay
>>>>>>> > > > > > Harry Kemp
>>>>>>> > > > > > Donald Evans
>>>>>>> > > > > > Allen Norton
>>>>>>> > > > > > Louise Norton
>>>>>>> > > > > > H.D.
>>>>>>> > > > > > Mina Loy
>>>>>>> > > > > > William Carlos Williams
>>>>>>> > > > > > Alfred Kreymborg
>>>>>>> > > > > > Ezra Pound
>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>> > > > > > In the Saturday Evening Post of April 7th 1917 Sinclair Lewis
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>> > > > > > "It is called /free verse/ because it doesn't pay."
>>>>>>> > > > > >
>>>>>>> > > > > > And so it goes.
>>>>>>> > > > > Histories of the best of poets... the modernists.....
>>>>>>> > > > I need to bring this book back down from the shelf soon.
>>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>>> > > > Currently I'm reading "True Believer: The Rise and Fall of Stan
>>>>>>> Lee" and rereading Jack Kerouac's "Vanity of Duluoz".
>>>>>>> > > Stan The Man...!!
>>>>>>> > A good book, though much darker than most people would expect.
>>>>>>> Interesting, I like those ole comix....
>>
>>>> I just bought the Dr. Strange collection, 1963-66, good art and story.
>>
>>
>>> Very cool work....!
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzlQ2N6qqg
>> Yes, "Thor: Love and Thunder" turned out pretty good, also.
>
> As I am seeing...!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNro_55dnRQ

Thanks again, Zod.