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From: Wolfgang Strobl <news5@mystrobl.de>
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Subject: Re: Some bicycle paths...
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 11:17:04 +0200
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Am Sun, 21 Jul 2024 14:01:40 GMT schrieb Roger Merriman
<roger@sarlet.com>:

>Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 10:00:40 +0200, Wolfgang Strobl
>> <news5@mystrobl.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> Am Fri, 19 Jul 2024 15:43:45 -0400 schrieb Catrike Ryder
>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org>:
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 20:37:21 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13647915/pediatric-cancer-doctor-barbara-friedes-philadelphia-bike-lane-crash-death.html
>>>> 
>>>> That's not a path I'd want to ride.
>>> 
>>> Me neither.
>>> 
>>> Bud I do not prefer those back roads*) and paths used by drunk drivers,
>>> trying to avoid getting caught, either. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *) "Schleichweg", in German
>> 
>> Not many drunk drivers when I'm riding the back roads. I'm usually
>> finished riding by early afternoon.
>> 
>Seems to be rapidly declining (drink driving) and has been socially
>unacceptable for my lifetime, perhaps Germany which is quite car centric,
>see the mandatory bike lanes ie one has to use them as apposed to UK and I
>believe American where “Mandatory” means cars can’t use it but bikes are
>free to choose.

My dictionary ("Langenscheidts Handwörterbuch Englisch-Deutsch")
translates mandatory to obligatorisch, verbindlich, zwangsweise
(obligatory, binding, compulsory).

Actually, we have a kind of even inferior bike lanes in Germany,
nowadays called "Schutzstreifen*)" (protective stripe?), which still are
mandatory for cyclists, but may be used by motorized traffic, if a
driver sees a need for using that space. Most Schmutzstreifen ("dirt
line", cyclist slang) are narrower than the one shown by Wikpedia, even
some sidelining parking stripes. 

Most Sch(m)utzstreifen ("dirt lane", cyclist slang) are narrower than
the one shown on Wikpedia, even those right next to parking lanes.
<https://www.mystrobl.de/Plone/radfahren/fahrten/radwege/dreckwege/IMG-4316.jpeg>
(a picture from my former commute).



*) <https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radverkehrsanlage#Schutzstreifen>

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