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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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Subject: Re: New WiFi adapter
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 14:02:48 +0200
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On 2025-06-06 06:24, c186282 wrote:
> On 6/5/25 7:08 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-06-05 01:06, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 6/4/25 4:37 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-06-04 22:21, rbowman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> The 'write an editor' think could be traced to the programming 
>>>>> books of
>>>>> the day. They tended to use string handling in their examples and it
>>>>> followed 'Oh, I can write an editor'.
>>>>
>>>> Borland Pascal (and Borland C I suppose) at some point came with a 
>>>> set of libraries that allowed to create menu based text 
>>>> applications, and one of the included objects was an editor, for at 
>>>> least 65K of text.
>>>>
>>>> I remember another set of libraries, that came with a thick book, 
>>>> that included the libraries to create an editor. I don't remember 
>>>> the name.
>>>
>>>    No Borland stuff yet when we got our PCs ... and
>>>    we couldn't afford anything but the MS/IBM FORTRAN
>>>    compiler for the stats people. So, I opened the
>>>    Tek Ref manual and wrote my EdLin-killer in MASM.
>>>    It was fun too :-)
>>>
>>>    No real internet back in '82 ... so you couldn't
>>>    download other people's solutions. The few BBS
>>>    systems were mostly Commodore/Atari stuff.
>>
>> I did not have a phone in the 80's, so neither a modem. But I lived at 
>> a student residence at Uni, so exchanging software via floppy was 
>> trivial ;-)
> 
>    Awwww ... you missed 300-baud comms !
> 
>    Think "slow enough to actually read as it comes in"  :-)

I think that on one visit home, the bank manager, learning what I was 
studying, gifted us with a modem for accessing an information system 
being promoted by the authorities, and one of the services it had was 
accessing the bank. It was called "Infovía".

It had a small speed uplink, and a faster speed downlink. I don't 
remember the figures, but could be 300/1200. Maybe less than 300?

<https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfoV%C3%ADa>

Hum, it says created on 1995. Then maybe I'm remembering some earlier 
thing. Maybe Ibertex?

<https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videotex#En_Espa%C3%B1a>

It talks of the standard "CCITT V23 (1200/75)". Yeah, that speed could 
be it.

> 
>    I remember even slower standards. Hey "state of the art"
>    way back then !
> 
>    LONG back, I used to log into CompuServe (still exists)
>    for its own version of usenet (and it was good) using a
>    dumb terminal hooked to a 300/1200 baud modem. "ATTD ...".
> 
>    I think the Compuserve Forums no longer exist. Too bad.
> 
>    The Compuserve Forums were GREAT. Then the corp was
>    absorbed by AOL, then by Verizon ...... crap.
> 
>    Another one that is badly missed are the BYTE-mag
>    forums. Extra-good for light to super-heavy tech.
>    Want a video terminal starting with chips and
>    resistors and solder ... that was where to go.

I remember typing ASM programs that came with perhaps PC-Magazine 
(ted.asm → ted.com). There were instructions for downloading it with a 
modem, but that would be an international phone call, even if I had a 
modem and a phone of my own.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.