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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 12:35:06 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <8ef20494f573dc131234363177017bf9d6b647ee@i2pn2.org> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <31180d7e-1c2b-4e2b-b8d6-e3e62f05da43@att.net> <vk1brk$2srss$7@dont-email.me> <bb80c6c5-04c0-4e2d-bb21-ac51aab9e252@att.net> <vk23m7$31l8v$1@dont-email.me> <bce1b27d-170c-4385-8938-36805c983c49@att.net> <vk693m$f52$2@dont-email.me> <a17eb8b6-7d11-4c59-b98c-b4d5de8358ca@att.net> <vk7dmb$7mh2$2@dont-email.me> <b72490c1-e61a-4c23-a3a5-f624b2c084e4@att.net> <vk8tbq$j9h1$1@dont-email.me> <bd7dfdc7-6471-4fe6-b078-0ca739031580@att.net> <vklumc$3htmt$1@dont-email.me> <c03cf79d-0572-4b19-ad92-a0d12df53db9@att.net> <vkp0fv$b7ki$2@dont-email.me> <b125beff-cb76-4e5a-b8b8-e4c57ff468e9@att.net> <vkr8j0$t59a$1@dont-email.me> <98519289-0542-40ce-886e-b50b401ef8cf@att.net> <vksicn$16oaq$7@dont-email.me> <8e95dfce-05e7-4d31-b8f0-43bede36dc9b@att.net> <vl1ckt$2b4hr$1@dont-email.me> <53d93728-3442-4198-be92-5c9abe8a0a72@att.net> <vl5tds$39tut$1@dont-email.me> <9c18a839-9ab4-4778-84f2-481c77444254@att.net> <vl87n4$3qnct$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 12:35:06 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1802568"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3148 Lines: 27 Am Fri, 03 Jan 2025 09:39:01 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 02.01.2025 19:19, Jim Burns wrote: >> On 1/2/2025 6:31 AM, WM wrote: >>> On 31.12.2024 21:26, Jim Burns wrote: >>>> On 12/31/2024 1:20 PM, WM wrote: >> >>>>> Every union of FISONs which stay below a certain threshold stays >>>>> below that threshold. >>>>> Note: Every FISON stays below 1 % of ℕ. >>>> For each finite ⟦0,j⦆, there are more.than.#⟦0,j⦆.many finite ⟦0,k⦆ >>> So it is for all definable natural numbers. >> So it is for each finite.ordinal. > That is impossible, because all finite ordinals can be subtracted from ℕ > without infinitely many remaining. If you don't understand that, it is > useless to go on. > >>> natural numbers which have only few successors because when they are >>> removed nothing remains ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ...} = { } . >> ... the non.finite.ordinal natural.numbers. >> We define natural.numbers to be only finite.ordinals, of which there >> are more.than.any.finite.many. > Infinitely many can be removed without remainder. But only finitely many > can be defined by FISONs. It is very obvious there are infinitely many FISONs. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.