Deutsch English Français Italiano |
<8faa2f28f026986f1b6f78fc0397ad137640dce5@i2pn2.org> View for Bookmarking (what is this?) Look up another Usenet article |
Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 07:26:07 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <8faa2f28f026986f1b6f78fc0397ad137640dce5@i2pn2.org> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <virq3t$1gs07$1@dont-email.me> <c8faf784-348a-42e9-a784-b2337f4e8160@att.net> <3af23566-0dfc-4001-b19b-96e5d4110fee@tha.de> <ae606e53-0ded-4101-9685-fa33c9a35cb9@att.net> <viuc2a$27gm1$1@dont-email.me> <8a53c5d4-4afd-4f25-b1da-30d57e7fe91c@att.net> <vj1acu$31atn$3@dont-email.me> <ec451cd6-16ba-463d-8658-8588093e1696@att.net> <vj2f61$3b1no$1@dont-email.me> <10ebeeea-6712-4544-870b-92803ee1e398@att.net> <vj3tl0$3nktg$2@dont-email.me> <1f1a4089-dfeb-45f8-9c48-a36f6a4688fb@att.net> <vj6bqo$b6bt$1@dont-email.me> <b09445be167b757878741be04c87cf76d24d9786@i2pn2.org> <vj6psc$dp01$1@dont-email.me> <84818a4f5d3795b746b017ad0861a3d818c5b053@i2pn2.org> <vj8vd0$stav$1@dont-email.me> <5805ad50ebff3400d1370d8c99790cbc727a340a@i2pn2.org> <e86171d3-e5c1-4725-952d-d4da0f4ded07@tha.de> <1ac93432f1ba567e0f15308b8964bee86b92c706@i2pn2.org> <vjc7q2$1ir2f$2@dont-email.me> <4e7901e16785581d0d02a2d6474d7d2615c5fac9@i2pn2.org> <vje9dp$229c8$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 12:26:07 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2489768"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <vje9dp$229c8$1@dont-email.me> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3785 Lines: 43 On 12/12/24 4:12 AM, WM wrote: > On 12.12.2024 01:32, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 12/11/24 9:32 AM, WM wrote: >>> On 11.12.2024 03:04, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 12/10/24 12:30 PM, WM wrote: >>>>> On 10.12.2024 13:17, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 12/10/24 3:50 AM, WM wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Two sequences that are identical term by term cannot have >>>>>>> different limits. 0^x and x^0 are different term by term. >>>>>> >>>>>> Which isn't the part I am talking of, it is that just because each >>>>>> step of a sequence has a value, doesn't mean the thing that is at >>>>>> that limit, has the same value. >>>>> >>>>> Of course not. But if each step of two sequences has the same >>>>> value, then the limits are the same too. This is the case for >>>>> (E(1)∩E(2)∩...∩E(n)) and (E(n)). >>> >>>> But the limit of the sequence isn't necessary what is at the "end" >>>> of the sequence. >>> >>> The end of the sequence is defined by ∀k ∈ ℕ : E(k+1) = E(k) \ {k}. > >> None of which are an infinite sets, so trying to take a "limit" of >> combining them is just improper. > > Most endsegments are infinite. But if Cantor can apply all natural > numbers as indices for his sequences, then all must leave the sequence > of endsegments. Then the sequence (E(k)) must end up empty. And there > must be a continuous staircase from E(k) to the empty set. > > Regards, WM > Note, "inifinite" isn't a Natural Number, or a Real Number, so NO segement, specified by values, can have an "infinte endsegment". You seem to have a definitional problem. Of course, since you logic says that infinite sets act just like finite seqments, and thus no set is actually infinite, as well as that 0 is equal to 1 since they are both limits going to the same target, such a confusion is only natural.