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On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 19:53:45 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

>On 9/5/24 10:42, BCFD 36 wrote:
>> On 9/3/24 13:15, The Horny Goat wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 Sep 2024 08:11:29 -0700, Paul S Person
>> [stuff deleted]
>>=20
>>> I would have thought it was mostly (a) to ensure only citizens voted
>>> and (b) that nobody attempted to vote twice (though in a recent
>>> election there was a scandal concerning one group of immigrants who
>>> professed not to speak English but were caught going from station to
>>> station voting multiple times - we're talking about a team of about
>>> 20-30 individuals who were though to have voted 15-20 times each)
>>>
>>=20
>> I would be very interested to know where this happened.
>>=20
>	Another rumor put out by the loser in 2000.
>	So far the only voters doing things illegally have
>been Native Born White American Republicans.

I don't think that's entirely fair.

I think one of the "sister acts" (surviving sister voted for both
herself and her deceased sister) involved votes for Democrats.

But these minor problems were not only caught but did not influence
the elections they occurred in. IOW, nobody won or lost by 1 vote.

It is, however, true that all the spectacular stuff (forcing a House
District election to be completely redone, alternate Elector slates
done so incompetently that those on them are liable to trial, ballots
so confusing that votes for the Republican candidate actually went to
a thrid party candidate in Florida in 2000, etc, etc) was done by
Republicans. Since, say, 2000 or so anyway.

If we go back far enough -- trust me on this -- /no/ political party
can escape a history of really dubious election-related behavior.
Think "rotten boroughs". Think "Tammany Hall".

One question is: what would happen if a State refused to certify its
results and so submitted /no/ valid Electoral ballots? Would the total
needed to win be reduced? Or would it go to the House to decide?
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"