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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Cycling editorial Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:48:46 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 68 Message-ID: <8jtd2jpuoro4gmnplraqrpro290k5gblet@4ax.com> References: <uvu06g$3225a$1@dont-email.me> <uvu2up$32mkh$1@dont-email.me> <uvukc2$36dd4$2@dont-email.me> <u5i92j9omab27tbbq7tlmvm6ma83rireh3@4ax.com> <v039fl$bnbi$1@dont-email.me> <v04079$b1hl$1@dont-email.me> <lc2b2jts662hgaps881bfup2egi9c2vb3o@4ax.com> <v0429i$h1hf$1@dont-email.me> <hjkb2j1vt9aue1trp3qkrbmgoo7lktk37f@4ax.com> <v05m2v$v1ul$1@dont-email.me> <s49d2jdblmu3fkcu18o019mbsuoemdqg9c@4ax.com> <5tdd2j9pdqf2feaoobq6s9l23vo4v826a6@4ax.com> <v06o62$16jlu$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:48:49 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ca99cc6cc55618664ce58654104a1381"; logging-data="1295651"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+X8RBwM5DWBHFLs0lRzWw0LjTb/pZUonI=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:4gdXlWqV9dxPmV1mwZGJD0m/0QQ= Bytes: 4382 On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:26:12 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 4/22/2024 2:23 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:16:48 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:44:15 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/21/2024 10:18 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:00:19 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 4/21/2024 4:54 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 17:24:56 -0400, zen cycle >>>>>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't believe there's a rule against mounting a water bottle on the >>>>>>>> bars. I could be wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You're wrong: >>>>>>> <https://road.cc/content/news/49519-uci-sets-sights-drinking-bottles-next> >>>>>>> "The new rule Article 1.3.024 will only allow bottles to be positioned >>>>>>> on the down tube and seat tube." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://assets.ctfassets.net/761l7gh5x5an/7s1ma6mVAVlFwi8rRgy0Iw/1bef531dd9e9f534c34ff016c68e3c72/Clarification_Guide_of_the_UCI_Technical_Regulation_-_20211005_-_ENG.pdf> >>>>>>> See pages 49 to 51. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> heh heh heh >>>>>> >>>>>> Riders used to complain that the 'white sox only; must cover >>>>>> the ankle' rule was silly. And also the official with a tape >>>>>> measure checking distance between hem of shorts leg and knee >>>>>> back during the 'black shorts only' rule era. >>>>>> >>>>>> But as they say all is change. A new era with even more >>>>>> arbitrary and ridiculous rules. >>>>> >>>>> In the interest of not starting a political discussion, I'll just >>>>> mention that the problem has been well known for many centuries and is >>>>> commonly known as the Chinese version of legalism: >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(Chinese_philosophy)> >>>>> Legalism can be made to work, but does not scale easily to large >>>>> numbers without using coersion. >>>>> >>>>> "Change everything" (I have a rubber stamp with those words). >>> >>>> It's universal to bureaucracies as Hayek brilliantly explained. >>> >>> Yep. His book "The Road to Serfdom" is on the basic reading list for >>> prospective Libertarians. >>> <https://ctheory.sitehost.iu.edu/img/Hayek_The_Road_to_Serfdom.pdf> >>> I read it in college, along with "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand: >>> <https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.458873> (90 MBytes) >>> Both books convinced me that the default answer to excessive >>> bureaucracy is NOT more bureaucracy. >>> >>> Where is my rubber stamp hiding? >> >> I read Atlas Shrugged when I was in High School. I never read "The >> Road to Serfdom," but I think I will. Thanks for the PDF. I hope it's >> legal. It's now on my Kindle > >After that , his soul mate von MIses: > >https://archive.org/details/HumanAction I'm a bit of a John Locke, Thomas Hobbes kind of guy... but it was a very long time ago.