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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Petential Energy doing Work Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:42:30 -0700 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <8kqa9jdqt0hvke95j32nknp3hkpop9eti0@4ax.com> References: <v5n5ma$3fn09$4@dont-email.me> <QcIfO.11994$HtVe.11801@fx43.iad> <v5npq7$3njvb$3@dont-email.me> <LWYfO.473114$Kxzd.419287@fx15.iad> <v5po9c$26i2$5@dont-email.me> <hK0gO.15387$1uu1.7935@fx06.iad> <gr918j5amrar6gd32si4et6s3i317mrr7p@4ax.com> <fKigO.185878$7NFd.142155@fx16.iad> <v5sfqb$m747$1@dont-email.me> <JFlgO.196912$iz_6.34143@fx14.iad> <v5ssgq$o3es$2@dont-email.me> <IeAgO.21859$zMs3.7184@fx48.iad> <v5uroo$16d6r$2@dont-email.me> <WcclO.6381$Ymbe.1936@fx37.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net RA6bdmdMX21zdJP3XSuuggsD2I+ydKQxnBwhAhBdvbqFGNPzrV Cancel-Lock: sha1:0HlYvDLCEa7XSw9DSR4jHfwvIG0= sha256:OfS0TsQJeZBVBp9ifOxkdwuxEH9pJj+NSrOHGUgxwDs= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 2743 On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:35:02 GMT, Tom Kunich <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote: >Lowering the center of gravity in a gravity field of a moving >body ADDS energy to the mass. Either tell us where is goes >or STOP trying to imply it doesn't. If this energy GOES somewhere, it's not potential energy. It's kinetic energy. <https://taraenergy.com/blog/potential-and-kinetic-energy-explained/> "...potential energy is stationary, with stored energy to be released; kinetic energy is energy in motion, actively using energy for movement." By slowly lowering your center of mass, you are lowering your potential energy. Potential energy is where nothing is moving. You have the potential of moving but there's little or no kinetic (moving) energy produced. In other words, you cannot dissipate potential energy without first converting it to kinetic energy. If you rapidly descend onto your bicycle saddle, you do produce some kinetic energy. To answer your question, the kinetic energy is absorbed by your tires. Jump off a building and land in your saddle and you will probably explode the tires, which is a good demonstration of dissipating kinetic energy. Note that both lowering your center of mass by slowly lowering yourself onto the saddle or rapidly lowering it by jumping off a building into the saddle are going to produce any forward motion. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558