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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Riding a bike a protection and in general
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 17:15:39 -0400
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 17:06:36 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 6/20/2025 8:53 AM, John B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 06:06:07 -0400, zen cycle
>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 6/19/2025 11:25 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 6/19/2025 4:05 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 00:31:23 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "If a person does get a gun for "protection," they or someone in their
>>>>> household becomes much more likely to get shot"
>>>>> --Krygowski
>>>>>
>>>>> Nonsense. There are probably more people who bought a gun for
>>>>> protection who have not been shot, than people who bought a gun for
>>>>> protection who have been shot.
>>>>
>>>> Wow.
>>>>
>>>> Can one of Mr. Tricycle Rider's allies please explain his logic mistake
>>>> to him? I'm beyond trying to help him learn to think.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If he would have bothered to read the study, he'd know that there are in
>>> fact more people who bought a gun for protection who have not been shot
>>> than people who bought a gun for protection who have been shot.
>>>
>>> The fact that he thinks the study is bogus because more people who
>>> bought a gun for protection who have not been shot than people who
>>> bought a gun for protection who have been shot shows that he didn't read
>>> the study, and if he did, he didn't understand it.
>>>
>>> The claim "there are more people who bought a gun for protection who
>>> have not been shot, than people who bought a gun for protection who have
>>> been shot" does not negate the the conclusion of the study that having a
>>> gun in your home makes you more likely to get shot.
>>>
>>> It's likely that the dumbass will never be able to understand the
>>> distinction because:
>>> a) he reading comprehension is too weak to understand statistical analysis
>>> 2) his automatically dismisses anything not fed to him by his magatard
>>> echo chamber.
>>>
>>> but as I mentioned before, trying to expose him to new concepts and use
>>> objective rationale has little more possibility of success that trying
>>> to convince a dog not to lick it's own ass.
>>>
>>> IOW - it's just the willfully ignorant dumbass being a willfully
>>> ignorant dumbass.
>>>
>> All this ge-gaw ignores the fact that more then 40% of US adults live
>> in a household where there are guns.
>
>That's been ignored because it's not directly pertinent to the point 
>being discussed.
>
>To make it relevant, we can note that yes, the U.S. does have 
>world-leading gun ownership rates. And son of a gun, the U.S. has 
>near-world-record gun death rates!

The USA also world-leading number of street gangs, too. I wonder what
getting rid the street gangs would do to those numbers.

>The per-capita gun death rate of the U.S. is exceeded only by Mexico and 
>three or four "third world" countries that are very violent. U.S. is 
>_far_ worse than any country that's similarly modern and prosperous.
>
>So: More guns per capita, and more gun deaths per capita. Gosh, it's 
>almost like those facts are related!

--
C'est bon
Soloman