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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: To sum up Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2025 14:26:34 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <8qifqjh77qor8im1ld0e3eq3nlv7ephf5s@4ax.com> References: <vo1kt4$2r8m5$1@dont-email.me> <tq29qjl9ln2s9uou8c4da1r6dpmidesnsd@4ax.com> <6qceqjhouj6a1r7cj9s1f7npgc406nbfqv@4ax.com> <vo7dmt$qvu$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="2097"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.20.32.1218 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:xHi5uDNndE7/5Wc7zXGI2V0I0XQ= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 2CD6222978C; Sat, 08 Feb 2025 16:26:44 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 018AB229783 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sat, 08 Feb 2025 16:26:41 -0500 (EST) id DC68C1C25BA; Sat, 8 Feb 2025 21:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by newsfeed.bofh.team (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D11681C03FB for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sat, 8 Feb 2025 21:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 756085FD2D for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sat, 8 Feb 2025 21:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/756085FD2D; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=buzz.off id 39F84DC01CA; Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:26:36 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2025 22:26:36 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+/Iva5vgIaGAh8v4FDvLGkotIzdkQpcOk3EM/230JWc41402BzhRqy HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 22:03:57 +1100, the following appeared in talk.origins, posted by MarkE <me22over7@gmail.com>: >On 8/02/2025 9:39 pm, Martin Harran wrote: >> On Thu, 06 Feb 2025 10:17:26 +0000, Martin Harran >> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:29:54 +1100, MarkE <me22over7@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Has talk.origins run its course, with this incarnation (post-GG >>>> meteorite impact) the last of the dinosaurs? >>>> >>>> And what of the Origins debate? My contention is that progressive >>>> discoveries with the complexity and precision of life are making Mt >>>> Improbable higher and higher [1]. ID has gained and sustained traction >>>> because this trend is real. >>> >>> What evidence have you got that ID has gained and sustained traction? >>> >>> [...] >> >> So, nothing to offer. Appears to be just another example of you >> thinking something *should* be true just because you would like it to >> be true. >> > >No response does not equal nothing to offer, especially in this context, >as we both well know. > >Once again, a cheap shot over substantive comment, with a disregard for >logic. I don't believe you're engaging in good faith, Martin. > Martin can handle his own arguments, but I noticed that you again failed to provide the evidence for your claim that ID has gained traction. I'd also be interested in such evidence, since it contradicts my own observations. > -- Bob C. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov