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Subject: Re: This first time anyone In the entire history of the halting
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On 12/8/2024 11:40 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 12/7/2024 9:43 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 12/7/2024 6:18 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 12/7/24 6:32 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 12/6/2024 9:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/6/2024 8:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/6/24 9:08 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 12/5/2024 11:20 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Am 05.12.2024 um 05:20 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> There is an 80% chance that I will be alive in one month.
>>>>>>>>>> There may be an extended pause in my comments.
>>>>>>>>>> I will try to bring a computer to the out of town hospital.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe you'll solve your halting problem issues before you die.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> typedef void (*ptr)();
>>>>>>>> int HHH(ptr P);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> int DD()
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>     int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>>>>>>>     if (Halt_Status)
>>>>>>>>       HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>>>     return Halt_Status;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>     HHH(DD);
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am sure that DD correctly emulated by HHH according to
>>>>>>>> the semantics of the C programming language cannot possibly
>>>>>>>> reach its own return instruction final halt state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does HHH correctly emulated DD, if it isn't give tne code for 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> HHH that DD calls?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I have told you many dozens of times HHH and DD share
>>>>>> the same global memory space within memory version of the
>>>>>> Halt7.obj file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And thus you admit that your HHH isn’t the required “pure function” 
>>>>> as its
>>>>> result is dependent on that contents of that global memory, and not 
>>>>> just
>>>>> its input, as required by the definition of a global function,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First we have to acknowledge that pure function or not HHH does 
>>>> something unprecedented in the history of the halting problem:
>>>> HHH does correctly reject its input as non-halting.
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't do anything "unprecedented".
>>>
>>
>> Changing the subject to a different criteria
>> IS CHEATING USING THE STRAWMAN DECEPTION
>>
>> Try and show any example of any prior work such that
>> the termination analyzer does return the correct termination
>> value where the measure of the behavior of DD is DD emulated
>> by HHH according to the semantics of the x86 language.
>>
>> Changing the subject to a different criteria
>> IS CHEATING USING THE STRAWMAN DECEPTION
>>
>> HHH can also be based on a C language interpreter or a UTM
>> as long as it gets the same result for the same criteria.
>>
>> Changing the subject to a different criteria
>> IS CHEATING USING THE STRAWMAN DECEPTION
>>
> 
> test
> 


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