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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "X, formerly known as \"!Jones\"" <x@y.com> Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: Re: Applying the Scientific Method... Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2024 17:20:19 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <8rhpdj12u6uqnli6dnmg8pp4ojgc8mru0s@4ax.com> References: <sdljdjt50v45qk3nrpiq0s3he6mjumooae@4ax.com> <bMGCO.225002$D_21.66987@fx14.iad> <qrbndjlbqre382okis6v6pqvf61mdubu7p@4ax.com> <0mPCO.241160$Hld5.107942@fx15.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2024 00:20:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cccdd17d40511e929f9273da7c924844"; logging-data="1662062"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19S8+AkGiSM3kGH03W3DOjV" Cancel-Lock: sha1:yMkD4ZKwkiShBfLRO5Nd9c4H41U= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Bytes: 2535 If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911! >> Can you tell us the meaning of "correlation" without resorting to >> Google? > >You first. Let's see your evidence that that gun proliferation and >gun violence tend to have a positive correlation. It should be >easy for you since you claim the proof is as obvious as gravity. I'm quite certain that I never used the term "proof". I have retired from editing research papers; however, when I did so, I assure you that suggesting that your paper would *prove* something was the fastest way to end up in my rejection bin. Outside of theoretical mathematics, nothing is ever proven... you can't even prove gravity. I can define correlation, though. *Every* set of points has some coefficient of correlation. The gold standard of correlational studies linking the presence of guns as a risk factor of violence was "Gun Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home" (October 7, 1993) New England Journal of Medicine, VOL. 329 NO. 15, Kellermann, A. The last time I looked at its citation index was almost 20 years ago, and it already had several thousand scholarly citations in peer-reviewed publications. I know; you don't *like* it... heh! (Neither did the NRA, who spent millions to suppress it.) There are other studies, but that one stands well above the rest. In your court, sir.