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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: The insane progress nobody is talking about Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 21:12:31 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <8thh7jh8hsoacsen6mqf46i8lqpa6rjkep@4ax.com> References: <slrnv760nq.ve1.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <robertaw-7D4C73.09445219062024@news.individual.net> <v4v7ka$dfl$1@panix2.panix.com> <n0177j1ssbpiaik6pqj5ajf2s1nqm03icb@4ax.com> <e8l87j93n3tu4ns7ogucsaeuackvmsjrdc@4ax.com> <v6o87jh3jrqo93vsve8e9slae29kvunuu2@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="81609f6cf10a3e9f2dceeb8955f062d3"; logging-data="635596"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19HMbh6k/se7GwstYR3bHjEcKiQT4H5Mx4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:sGXBALKdT8SIIzW3rMeaL26JF8k= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.2/32.830 Bytes: 2814 On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 11:07:21 -0600, John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 09:15:56 -0700, Paul S Person > <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: > > >Kind of like Rapid Transit, which promises that, in 30 years, there > >will be 30% fewer cars on the road /than there would be without it/, > >not 30% fewer than there are today. > > Here in Edmonton, a couple of years ago we had a massive change to all > our bus routes. > > The main upshot for the inner city is that the routes have been > "optimized", but their frequency of service has been reduced in many > instances, meaning a bus trip needs to be planned ahead, not done on > impulse. (This makes it easier to comply with the single-use bag > bylaw!) > > This was done to free up resources to increase bus service to the > suburbs. The hope was that this would result in the people whoi live > there, who pretty much all have cars, taking the bus more often. > > It is a good intention, since reducing carbon emissions is important, > but expecting people with cars to start taking the bus? Anyone who > lived in the real world would have known this was ludicrous. So they > just ruined the bus service for people who need the bus for no reason. I will start using the bus service when it takes me from where I am to where I want to go, and picks me up when I have my coat on, no sooner and not much later. Doesn't matter, since this town has no bus service -- and can't have any. Mass transit works only when masses want to transit. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at centurylink dot net