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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: bike path news Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 10:24:39 +0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 93 Message-ID: <8vj4tjdsp225kcmeg67ctkk9fjskt44tb5@4ax.com> References: <vqla8n$1018u$1@dont-email.me> <m37mnjFnuacU1@mid.individual.net> <vqn01k$1die7$1@dont-email.me> <vqnbib$1fvjp$1@dont-email.me> <vqns6i$1jg04$2@dont-email.me> <am3vsj1q3ljt92rmtg0lrv1fdcke9b86da@4ax.com> <vqo9gf$1lp77$2@dont-email.me> <vqpbvj$1vnlf$1@dont-email.me> <vqpgr2$205pe$5@dont-email.me> <i1m1tj9nksqmieijqcekrkor5ojp9tk36j@4ax.com> <vqrg1v$2g021$4@dont-email.me> <h4l2tjt2hn1aloro871n9nb1ikeok917nh@4ax.com> <vqru6q$2jgrp$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 04:24:42 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="34c6a9b384ac0654369116f17bd11807"; logging-data="3103163"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19v7NRLYDx62wONVFPB6pNNUL6GKPC3X/U=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.10.32.1212 Cancel-Lock: sha1:HdQeTpzr3td/GdDUIXg3TO+iy+g= Bytes: 5249 On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 08:20:42 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote: >On 3/12/2025 5:32 AM, John B. wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 04:19:11 -0400, zen cycle >> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 3/11/2025 8:45 PM, John B. wrote: >>>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:20:18 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 3/11/2025 8:57 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>>> On 3/10/2025 10:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 9:37 PM, John B. wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well... you exhibit a fear of firearms ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bullshit. I exhibit distaste for the American fetish for firearms, and >>>>>>> the effect it has on society. And I exhibit scorn for paranoia so >>>>>>> severe as to cause a person to _require_ a firearm to do ordinary >>>>>>> things like ride a quiet bike path, drive a car, fill a gas tank, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sympathetic to those controlled by some phobias. Not this one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And BTW, it's not just our super-timid tricyclist. One classmate of >>>>>>> mine in an adult education class brought his handgun to a class picnic >>>>>>> in the country. Nice guy, but that was crazy paranoia. Another guy, >>>>>>> less admirable in general, bragged to me about carrying his handgun >>>>>>> into a folk music concert we attended. Absolute stupidity, and crazy >>>>>>> paranoia. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That latter guy played guitar, but was so obese that he used a special >>>>>>> stand to hold his guitar out away from his belly. Maybe his physical >>>>>>> shortcomings triggered feelings of great vulnerability, as with Mr. >>>>>>> Tricycle? Nonetheless, his risk assessment was off the charts crazy - >>>>>>> as is Mr. Tricycle's. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Replace 'firearm' in the above with 'bicycle helmet'. >>>>>> Same argument. >>>>>> >>>>>> And regarding risk assessment, I'm reasonable certain that this >>>>>> shopping mall in Greenwood Indiana never experienced a deranged madman >>>>>> shooting into a crown before, and most probably never will again. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, on one fine July day, it happened. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/07/hero-armed-citizen-landed-8- >>>>>> of-10-shots-at-40-yards-to-stop-mass-shooting-in-15-seconds/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Not especially that Mr Dicken was lawfully carrying only days after the >>>>>> Indiana statute had changed to allow carry. >>>>>> >>>>>> p.s. 8 of ten at 40 feet instantaneously without preparation is >>>>>> excellent marksmanship. Not achievable without some diligence and range >>>>>> time. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Which doesn't bode well for people who carry for personal protection and >>>>> never take the time and diligence. If there was a law requiring range >>>>> time and accuracy to carry a gun, I'd be a lot more confident in the >>>>> general public carrying guns. Instead, cases like this are far more >>>>> prevalent: >>>>> >>>>> https://people.com/calif-toddler-accidentally-shoots-and-kills-mother-with-unsecured-gun-police-8759431 >>>> >>>> Ah But, as your reference states the boyfriend committed an illegal >>>> act, and was charged, The Florida guy is talking about a legal act. >>>> >>>> A bit of a difference, wouldn't one think? >>> >>> not much. The gun fetishists (lobby) thinks any restrictions on gun >>> ownership are unconstitutional. In their (small) minds, the boyfriend >>> did nothing wrong. >> >> >> Re restrictions on gun ownership??? >> >> The first piece of national gun control legislation was passed on June >> 26, 1934. The National Firearms Act (NFA) >> > >Which is not germane to the point that the gun fetishists (lobby) think >any restrictions on gun ownership are unconstitutional. Really? Is the NRA advocating fully automatic weapons, extremely short barrel rifles, etc., that the NFA bans? -- Cheers, John B.