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From: D <J@M> References: <100skr4$2l3$1@rasp.pasdenom.info> <322469d230f251f5c84677e2d231dfd2@dizum.com> <101sitr$dvq6$1@solani.org> <mah17lF21lkU1@mid.individual.net> <101vmpo$fjcu$1@solani.org> Subject: Re: [MACCAFÉ Version 3.04 is available Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <902b6445d303a20ac210f70ac714926a@dizum.com> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 00:39:37 +0200 (CEST) Newsgroups: news.software.readers Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128 Bytes: 3240 Lines: 52 On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 21:32:40 -0000 (UTC), DV <dv@reply-to.not.invalid> wrote: >s|b wrote: >> 40tude Dialog and Xnews are both abandonware, but they're still on the >> list. Any reason why you omitted Forté Agent? forteinc.com > >As indicated in the introduction to my page, this list only includes >free newsreaders, which is not the case with Forté Agent. >I know that there was a free version of Agent and I tested it, but I >found it far too limited. >As for 40Tude Dialog and Xnews, even though they've been discontinued, >you can still download them. i still prefer free agent for posting because it is so simple and portable, and 40tude dialog for reading because while also portable, it has the most comprehensive scoring features available (i rarely use dialog for posting because its "save and close draft" is less convenient than "save" [ctrl+s] using any word processor (e.g. libreoffice) or text editor--even free agent lets you do that much (no need to close then reopen its composition window) why such a full-featured newsreader would've disabled "ctrl+s" is a mystery as a long-time user of free agent (since 16-bit 1.11/16.235 in windows 95), after testing registered versions of 1.93/32.576 and 8.00/32.1272, i still prefer free agent 1.93 for posting and 40tude dialog 2.0.15.41 for reading free agent 1.93/32.576 (2.29 mb): https://web.archive.org/web/20051125104705/http://ftp3.forteinc.com/pub/agent/english/a32en193.exe 1.93 registration key: CQ9PMH48-84YB7CZJ-ZGKHKS5J-6VRCTN8M-V7G88TUE (unlocks "undo", maybe handy if you don't use a word processor for editing) trial agent 8.00/32.1272 (11.0 mb): https://web.archive.org/web/20240421180300/https://download.forteinc.com/pub/qewgybnkzfamqwgy/agentenu800-1272.msi 8.00 registration key: T2BZ6L74-B42DPH7N-F7WHTN9D-6NSNSST3-19G6BN2S-XKUSDYKA 3XFL14ZT-W2NYVJFB-LXLTPWV7-P8VNC8MV-661ENJUW-F56XSGY9 TV4NN23M-LDLE3DVH-DNJ667EV (these "new and improved" versions of agent are definitely not recommended) 40tude dialog 2.0.15.41 (3.82 MB / 2.83 MB): https://www.barghahn-online.de/4td_faq/download/4d2b38.exe https://www.barghahn-online.de/4td_faq/download/dialog_41.zip free, no registration (do not install to "x86" program folder) (free agent is simple and easy to use, dialog most comprehensive features) p.s. in addition to libreoffice, i also frequently use these text editors: libre office https://libreoffice.org notetab lite https://notetab.com/notetab-light ted notepad https://jsimlo.sk/notepad