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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 21:02:08 +0000 From: Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: Dial-up modems (Re: FREE GAME: Spirit of the Mouse) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 17:02:09 -0400 Message-ID: <90qdgjd2fomhe91715h4dq0vv5kb0g1a0e@4ax.com> References: <slrnvftfth.51us.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <bbacnSJt_NMN5GL7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@earthlink.com> <slrnvfvbd8.21vdo.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vdotu0$8ied$1@dont-email.me> <l5WdndxkpZaFpZ36nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <2d1d9c48fbbdc14ad1055a11b19e73d0b3557d19@i2pn2.org> <KJSdnYATxt57Dpn6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <aeobgj9hilj152gfujuaf01vth91706sjf@4ax.com> <5pddgj9mc3ubi7gkfbtqij9b936gol0i94@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 76 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-jlB1OW4alK/M0WxwAzFLhbkaYB/gEF69wx0X4rgCwglq4GMmguQQo1WVX82CHzQf1moXcIjkNnZuryl!HscLfaEOeHez6eaPy4BPiiGpz2rfR5fuadV3o6i1i5XYE7pjcklHj7/OzI9+T1RtS1V+4Gzz X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4769 On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 13:06:08 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote: >Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >say: > >>On Tue, 08 Oct 2024 02:07:34 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote: >>>Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than >>>> it sent letters. >> >>>That's like 300 speed. ;) >> >>Depends on how fast you can type :-) >>300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists. > >Don't be too sure, I hunt and peck at a quite fast rate (never learned >to touch type and the allowable mistakes in touch typing, just plain DO >NOT WORK when programming and it HAS TO BE RIGHT. > >I am however not one of those two-fingered hunt and peck types like you >see in old police dramas, glacially typing up their reports on a >typewriter or computer. > >>And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of >>games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit >>slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for >>downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the >>original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day). >>Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and >>that would be it for the night ;-) > >Never used 300 baud, but first modem was a Zoltrix 2400, soon upgraded >to a USR 14k4. As I mentioned in the parent thread, I started with a 1200baud modem (I think) for the Apple II. But it didn't really get much use and I consider the modem I got for my PC to be my real "first". It was a bleeding edge 28,8kbps from Zoom Telephonics; so high-end that it was released over a year before the v32 specifications for 28,8 speeds was standardized. Of course, it was a long while before I could connect to anyone else at that speed. And downloads were rapidly outpacing data-rates, so even when I hooked up to another 28.8 modem, the advantage was negligible. Still, I stayed on dial-up for a long time (albeit with a faster 56K modem)... well into the 2000s. The Internet was still _usable_ at those speeds, and as for downloads? I'd just queue everything up and let it run overnight. [A major reason for my reluctance to upgrade was that few broadband providers included NNTP/Usenet access ;-)] In fact, the biggest advantage to broadband _wasn't_ that it was so much faster, but that I wouldn't be tying up the phone line for hours on end. And it made it _so much_ easier to share internet access across multiple PCs. I won't deny that at least part of my objection to services like Steam was that it was mighty inconvenient to be tied to the Internet when you had dial-up ;-) > >I think I still have a ISA 56k modem around here somewhere, but of >course no landline. According to my spreadsheet-of-useless-computer-shit-I-own, I still have five modems (two ISA, three PCI) stashed away in the closet, including that beloved 28.8kbps Zoom telephonics. I think I halfway hope that one day I'll get one of those devices that lets you setup up a local phone network so I can connect all the retro-PCs together ;-)