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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: quadibloc <quadibloc@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Things presented in-story as Good Ideas that seem like really Bad Ideas Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 23:56:05 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <919dec8e6658fdd4b63d69b960927a26@www.novabbs.com> References: <lk79hhFp0bkU1@mid.individual.net> <cfe72ff45a19251c09b3774f3a2c45a9@www.novabbs.com> <i0gvdjhk13b26oksg5go044hn3aqsvbau1@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1601059"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="5sGkkzIbbdADfSo2vvlQSyy6vQkiKbuCRuGoclDdANg"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: 80dce3cebe7cf4e7a35bf1a47824d0d58e41b1b7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$RVxIZFdt4vt8cTZPXqOvj.IgEjEDnmGhtnnXbRQmkeaYezAYu2/OS Bytes: 2645 Lines: 51 Mad Hamish wrote: > a) that's your objection to the policy? Of course it would be possible to say a lot of things about L5 colonists who established a rule that their colonies were for people with significantly above-average IQs only. One could call it elitist, ableist, or bigoted. And throw in eugenics for good measure. However, it wasn't necessary to wade into politics. Or even the nature vs nurture debate. It's well known that the genetic component of intelligence doesn't "breed true", for the reason I've noted - a lot of different genes affect intelligence. So the idea of sending back everyone who turns out to not meet the threshold for entry to the space colony... is wildly impractical. This isn't "politics I disagree with", it's "bad science", which is an _objective_ flaw. Sure, I do argue politics, but I also try to avoid it when I don't have to. However, to answer your question... That the people in charge of the L5 colonies in the novel want to build a new and better world, and think that peopling it with those who are above average in intelligence is a reasonable part of doing so... does _not_ cause me to have a knee-jerk reaction that this is EEEVIL. So to some extent, your suspicions of me are valid. Human stupidity is indeed one of the big causes of the problems we have here on Earth. However, the kind of stupidity that causes problems... doesn't correlate well with IQ. Fanatical nationalism, religion, or ideology can corrupt the thinking of otherwise quite intelligent people. John Savard John Savard