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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Does the Math Show A Doubling of the Gravitational Deflection of =?UTF-8?B?U3RhcmxpZ2h0Pw==?= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 21:38:33 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <931d6fbed7d7ee41d9e8f83018338bc4@www.novabbs.com> References: <abf8cad4f878963879f7fb527ad8a82e@www.novabbs.com> <vmisdr$27m23$1@dont-email.me> <a09510415a3c9e9083ff8fa27f92840d@www.novabbs.com> <vml0qk$2vspj$1@dont-email.me> <b45b74dae10c0ca61656af3a407d1570@www.novabbs.com> <vmqscb$11dr3$1@dont-email.me> <86ba854c3d153993c8d7ab14a94ddd51@www.novabbs.com> <vmu3q1$1oo11$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3483973"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$RuPML0X4VuWJfTQh/19FHeZp/RbnYXIyxmH032xMU616qu3cRp/RG X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 Bytes: 3200 Lines: 48 On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:06:05 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > Den 23.01.2025 01:39, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >> On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 13:40:52 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >> >>>> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 8:17:24 +0000, Mikko wrote: >>>> >>>>> The fact is that some distant >>>>> galaxies >>>>> are observed in two or more different directions. > > The issue is if multiple images of distant galaxies can be seen. > > My answer is: > >>> >>> It is however _many_ examples that multiple distorted images >>> of the same object can be seen. >>> >>> A star or quasar is radiating light in all direction. >>> So if, relative to us, the star or quasar is behind a large >>> galaxy, light that is passing close by the galaxy may be >>> gravitational deflected so that the light is bent towards us. >>> If the star or quasar is exactly on a straight line behind >>> the gravitating galaxy, light passing on different sides >>> may be bent towards us, so we see multiple images or even >>> a ring. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_Cross >>> >>> https://www.livescience.com/physics-mathematics/gravity/rare-einstein-cross-warps-light-from-one-of-the-universes-brightest-objects-in-this-stunning-image >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_ring >>> >>> Make my day. Keep denying facts. > >> You're so lame brain that you didn't address the issue which is whether >> it is refraction or gravity. Duh! > > Laurence Clark Crossen believe that the issue is if > Einstein crosses and Einstein rings are created by > refraction or gravitational lensing. > > What do you think it is, Laurence? > Refraction in the intergalactic medium? :-D Paul, according to Einstein the doubling of deflection is caused by Huygens principle. Is that involved in the non-Euclidean calculation of the doubling of curving space or has that been jettisoned?