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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 18:18:36 +0000, HarryLime wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 17:46:36 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 17:31:13 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 16:49:49 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 16:02:55 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 15:29:55 +0000, Will-Dockery wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  > > On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 7:05:08 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>  > > A silly young burro named Bobby
>>>>>>  > > Joined a poetry group for a hobby.
>>>>>>  > > His output was thin,
>>>>>>  > > But he tried to fit in
>>>>>>  > > By acting exceedingly snobby.
>>>>>>  > >
>>>>>>  > Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > A silly old fool named Dance
>>>>>>  > Once again pulled down his pants
>>>>>>  > No one expressed any shock
>>>>>>  > At the smallness of his c*ck
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's not forget that Robert Burrows came back with poetry of his own.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it can be noted that Burrows didn't just go away crying.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one is saying that he did, Donkey.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, you intentionally created a toxic atmosphere here, which ended up
>>>>> driving *everyone* away.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Again, that's a lie, Pendragon.
>>>>
>>>> It all begins when you, Jim Senetto and Nancy Gene decided to try to
>>>> drive Stephan Pickering from the newsgroup.
>>>
>>> You have a short memory, Donkey.  It began back in the early 2000s when
>>> you were annoying everyone with your ongoing tales of a pizza boi,
>>> calling yourself "Irony Waves" and discussing how black pussy tastes
>>> different from its Caucasian counterpart, starting flame wars with
>>> Karla, PJR, Michael Cooke, Dennis Hammes, and everyone else in the group
>>> at that time.

No, I don't think I ever started a flame war but I never ran from one.

The complete a.a.p.c. Usenet newsgroup archives can be read and
responded to on JLA Forums if you want to try to prove me wrong:

http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=633422563

>>> As for the late, unlamented Pickles, you brought him into the group to

Wrong again, Pendragon.

Stephan Pickering came to this Usenet newsgroup on.

This is an archived fact, look it up:

http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=633422563

>>> replace me as your ally -- when I finally wised up and realized who the
>>> real trolls were.
>>>
>>> I initially attempted to draw Pickles into several conversations.  After
>>> having ignored my first few attempts, he suddenly launched into one of
>>> his patented, incomprehensible tirades about Christian dupes, child
>>> molestation, etc.
>>>
>>> Pickle's only attempts at writing poetry, turned out to have been copied
>>> nearly verbatim from well known writers, changing only enough words to
>>> thwart any attempts to pull the originals up on a Google search.
>>>
>>> Pickles was an unwitting shill for you.  You knew that his inflammatory
>>> outbursts would draw the negative attention away from you -- which is
>>> precisely why you brought him here.
>>>
>>> You're still trying to use him right here and now as a means of
>>> deflecting my fire.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From there, you and your troll thug wannabe attempted and sometimes
>>>> succeeded in driving other poets away from Usenet.
>>>
>>> I don't know who was responsible for driving the illiterate, formerly
>>> homeless redneck known as Vinyl Cat from the group, but she brought that
>>> on herself.  (Details provided in other threads.)  As with Pickles,
>>> you're still using her to deflect fire from yourself.
>>>
>>> But then tossing friends under the bus has always been the Donkey way.
>>>
>>>
>>>> All that ended with the demise of Google Groups apparently, and if you
>>>> guys are happy with Facebook, go for it.
>>>
>>> Happy?  I'm downright thrilled.  Out year end issue is chock full of top
>>> notch poetry, color artwork, and award-winning poets.  We had an amazing
>>> year, with contributions from Scott Thomas, Louise Webster, Bruce
>>> Boston, Robert Cabeen, Carlos Deleon, Jefferson Carter, Ruth Housman,
>>> Trinity Venter, and other established poets gracing our pages.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, the Usenet newsgroup AAPC continues and will continue, and
>>>> hopefully will grow during 2025.
>>>
>>> Right... over the past 12 months, you've grown from approximately 12
>>> members to 3.  Kudos.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> You and George not only launched threads attacking Bobby, but created
>>>>> similar threads attacking everyone who wasn't a member of your "team."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, you, Nancy Gene and Jim Senetto were doing that as far back as
>>>> 2017.
>>>>
>>>> It seems now that you're trying to misrepresent and lie about what
>>>> happened.
>>>>
>>>> The truth is in the archives.
>>>
>>> And you'd been doing it as far back as 2002.
>>
>> Usenet newsgroups have always had flame wars, it comes with the
>> territory.
>>
>>>>> I originally came to this group to promote my just-published poetry
>>>>> collection in 2010.  At that time, AAPC was a wasteland -- much as it is
>>>>> today, only the dozens of spam posts advertising drugs have been
>>>>> replaced by dozens of spam posts of Stinky G slurping your poetry.
>>>>>
>>>>> I returned a few years later when the spam quotient had drastically been
>>>>> reduced, and when there seemed to be more than two members (you and
>>>>> George, of course) desperately in search of a conversation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I came here to post and discuss poetry.
>>>>
>>>> Same here.
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, the atmosphere was so toxic, that I was forced to pick a
>>>>> side in an ongoing flame war, which proved to be a colossal waste of
>>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> Since you lost the flavor war, right.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, Donkey, but I've no recollection of this "flavor war."
>>> Please remind me as to which flavor I supported (I'm guessing vanilla,
>>> pumpkin spice, or pistachio) and which flavor (or flavors) won out over
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Because I realized what Usenet AAPC *could* become, I stuck around and
>>>>> did my best to create a much more attractive atmosphere that would
>>>>> attract, rather than repel, poets.
>>>>
>>>> You did your best to drive some poets away, Pendragon.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?
>>>
>>> Why do you keep repeating the same old whines, Donkey?
>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, the toxicity here only worsened, to the point at which it
>>>>> sank into an all-out state of no-hold-barred warfare.
>>>>
>>>> That was by your choice, Pendragon.
>>>
>>> It was a last ditch attempt to bring you to the table, Donkey.
>>>
>>> When it was just you annoying everyone, we had nothing to bargain with.
>>>
>>> Once you were starting to get attacked in return, we had something to
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