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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: 'Graphics' of libwy Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:08:48 +0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <949627852d304fe2c28e4b02e1c2c8f1b92dcf02.camel@gmail.com> References: <4ffeda4ce7116f70754bcfcaee87cb729081fac3.camel@gmail.com> <vjqhau$1ceif$1@dont-email.me> <vjs2do$1p3ce$1@dont-email.me> <vjs7a7$1qa1n$1@dont-email.me> <vjs8uq$1qgh4$1@dont-email.me> <vjsaa3$1qrhs$1@dont-email.me> <vjtvvk$2787g$1@dont-email.me> <vju3t1$27s6m$1@dont-email.me> <87cyho7l0y.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 03:08:49 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a3a239499efb4944c7e4fc438dced71f"; logging-data="2693869"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+PCrbvKZy7P0na10dQc/Xb" User-Agent: Evolution 3.54.2 (3.54.2-1.fc41) Cancel-Lock: sha1:rHXDfnGgLPnrxgHFo1WAvFeXRfM= In-Reply-To: <87cyho7l0y.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> Bytes: 3231 On Wed, 2024-12-18 at 13:12 -0800, Keith Thompson wrote: > Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org=C2=A0writes: > > On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 09:09:22 +0100 > > David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wibbled: > > > On 17/12/2024 17:53, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org=C2=A0wrote: > > > > You don't want a library that only works with the latest bleeding > > > > edge versions of C++. IMO C++ 2011 would be a reasonable oldest > > > > version. > > >=20 > > > I'd much rather have one that takes advantage of relatively modern C+= +=20 > > > features than one that re-invented these same features in their one= =20 > > > special ways - which is what you see with these older libraries.=C2= =A0 I'd=20 > >=20 > > A lot of companies systems don't have their compilers upgraded if consi= stency > > are whats required. A security company I worked at a few years ago only= =20 > > went up to C++14 because they didn't want any nasty security hole surpr= ises > > if they upgraded the compiler and started using the new features (or ev= en the > > older ones). >=20 > Recall that what's being proposed is adding a GUI library to a new C++ > standard.=C2=A0 If you don't upgrade your C++ implementation, you don't g= et > the new C++ standard GUI library -- even if the standardized library is > designed to be compatible with an older C++ standard. >=20 > I personally don't think that a GUI library should be part of the C++ > standard.=C2=A0 There are enough GUI libraries out there already, > cross-platform and otherwise.=C2=A0 But if such a library were added to t= he > C++ standard in, say, C++29, there's no reason it shouldn't take > advantage of C++29 features. >=20 > [...] >=20 I think now the answer may lie at what the cout (terminal) is. E.g. gnome-terminal --geometry=3D200x100 --zoom=3D0.5 -- ./a.out a.out is now plotting on a 200x100 drawing board. C++ can provide a graphics library, but not necessarily a GUI library.