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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:43:57 -0400
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:33:22 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 6/10/2025 10:55 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 6/10/2025 9:08 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/la-county-and-state-to-purge-15- 
>>> million-inactive-voters-from-rolls/6866/
>> 
>> Inactive voters are registered voters who have not voted in a certain 
>> number of previous elections. Obviously, they had no effect on the 
>> election.
>> 
>>>
>>> https://apnews.com/article/ohio-voters-citizenship- 
>>> referrals-42799a379bdda8bca7201d6c42f99c65
>> 
>> Per that link, there were 138 "non-ohio citizens" out of 8 million votes 
>> cast.
>> 
>>>
>>> https://www.illinoisreview.com/illinoisreview/2017/09/chicago-more- 
>>> votes-than-registered-voters.html
>> 
>> This was a right wing media ruse, where cook county votes being tallied 
>> in Chicago - because that's where cook county votes are tallied - 
>> outnumbered the the total number of registered voters in Chicago.
>> 
>> welll.....duuuuuhhhhhh.
>> 
>> 
>>>
>>> To "not significant numbers" I say our elections are routinely decided 
>>> on small fractions of 1%.
>> The evidence is not there to support any accusation that a close 
>> election was decided by illegal votes.
>And the right wing strategies to correct this alleged problem almost 
>invariably hinge on making it more difficult for poor, or minority, or 
>legitimate immigrant people to vote.
>
>Andrew has said something like he'd rather see a guilty person go free 
>rather than have an innocent person executed, or words to that effect. 
>That is, we should presume innocence unless guilt is proven.
>
>To extend that logic to voting, we shouldn't use the _myth_ of 
>significant voter fraud to deprive innocent people of their right to vote.
>
>I don't believe this controversy is a big issue in other developed 
>countries. It's another way the right wing manufactures imaginary 
>problems in America.

Krygowski repeats what he's been told by the same people who told him
that Joe Biden was as sharp as he's ever been.

--
C'est bon
Soloman