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Path: not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Halting Problem: What Constitutes Pathological Input Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 09:53:04 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-Id: <953ed41793cdb6c3bf0d7155e9e292ee8ee2aaee@i2pn2.org> References: <GE4SP.47558$VBab.42930@fx08.ams4> <vvamqc$o6v5$4@dont-email.me> <vvan7q$o4v0$1@dont-email.me> <ts5SP.113145$_Npd.41800@fx01.ams4> <vvat0g$vtiu$1@dont-email.me> <vvatf3$o4v0$3@dont-email.me> <vvaut0$vtiu$4@dont-email.me> <vvav6o$o4v0$4@dont-email.me> <vvb329$15u5b$1@dont-email.me> <vvb37g$1451r$1@dont-email.me> <vvb43f$15u5b$4@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 09:53:04 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3354655"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2416 Lines: 28 Am Mon, 05 May 2025 14:38:23 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 5/5/2025 2:23 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >> On 05/05/2025 20:20, olcott wrote: >>> Is "halts" the correct answer for H to return? NO Is "does not halt" >>> the correct answer for H to return? NO Both Boolean return values are >>> the wrong answer >> >> Or to put it another way, the answer is undecidable, QED. >> See? You got there in the end. >> > Is this sentence true or false: "What time is it?" > is also "undecidable" because it is not a proposition having a truth > value. > > Is this sentence true or false: "This sentence is untrue." > is also "undecidable" because it is not a semantically sound proposition > having a truth value. > > Can Carol correctly answer “no” to this (yes/no) question? > > Both Yes and No are the wrong answer proving that the question is > incorrect when the context of who is asked is understood to be a > linguistically required aspect of the full meaning of the question. Wrong, the correct answer is "no", Carol cannot correctly answer no. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.