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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: Ray Bremser
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 07:52:57 +0000
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General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> Zod wrote:
>
>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 8:13:47 PM UTC-5, George Dance wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 11:22:35 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> > On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 9:17:24 AM UTC-5, George Dance wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > > > > > > > > Today on The Penny Blog:
>>>> > > > > > > > > If Winter Remain, by Clark Ashton Smith
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Hateful, and most abhorred,
>>>> > > > > > > > > about us the season
>>>> > > > > > > > > of sleet, of snow and of frost
>>>> > > > > > > > > reaches, and seems unending
>>>> > > > > > > > > as plains whereon
>>>> > > > > > > > > lashed prisoners go
>>>> > > > > > > > > [...]
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.ca/2015/02/if-winter-remain-clark-ashton-smith.html
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > Aha, I remember Clark Ashton Smith from my later childhood
>>>> days, when I was steeped in Edgar Allan Poe, H.P. Lovecraft, Robert E.
>>>> Howard, Baudelaire and Rimbaud, the Cthulu Mythos, and all the lurching
>>>> shambling horrors that went with it. Great stuff, and very influential
>>>> on the Shadowville scene.
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > Here's a groovy quote from C.A.S.
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > "The nostalgia of things unknown, of lands forgotten or
>>>> unfound, is upon me at times. Often I long for the gleam of yellow suns
>>>> upon terraces of translucent azure marble, mocking the windless waters
>>>> of lakes unfathomably calm; for lost, legendary palaces of serpentine,
>>>> silver and ebony, whose columns are green stalactites; for the pillars
>>>> of fallen temples, standing in the vast purpureal sunset of a land of
>>>> lost and marvellous romance. I sigh for the dark-green depths of cedar
>>>> forests, through whose fantastically woven boughs, one sees at intervals
>>>> an unknown tropic ocean, like gleams of blue diamond; for isles of palm
>>>> and coral, that fret an amber morning, somewhere beyond Cathay or
>>>> Taprobane; for the strange and hidden cities of the desert, with burning
>>>> brazen domes and slender pinnacles of gold and copper, that pierce a
>>>> heaven of heated lazuli."
>>>> > > > > > > > -Clark Ashton Smith, "Nostalgia of the Unknown"
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > I'm glad you know of that tradition (which I didn't until I
>>>> started working on PPP). I wonder if Michael does, since it's the one he
>>>> actually works within. It's a shame, really; if it weren't for the
>>>> Mickey Mouse Act of 1998, all their works would be public domain by now,
>>>> and everyone would probably be well aware of them; but nowadays one
>>>> won't find any of their poetry without digging for it.
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > When I was publishing "Penny Dreadful," I corresponded with a
>>>> lot fellow
>>>> > > > > > writers with similar tastes (most of them living in England);
>>>> and was a member > of The Doppelganger Society which published a
>>>> broadsheet that focused on horror > and fantasy writings from that
>>>> period.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Sorry if I was unclear. I'm sure you know a lot more about the
>>>> Cthulu writers' horror fiction than I do. And I'm sure that nearly every
>>>> reader has at least heard of it. I was referring to their poetry: I'd
>>>> had no idea that Smith, Lovecraft, Howard, and Frank Belknap Long all
>>>> wrote Romantic/Gothic poetry, too; that's the part I fear may be being
>>>> forgotten. I've never read a word in any poetry texts or anthologies
>>>> that I've read (mind you, that's true of a number of top-notch poets,
>>>> like Vachel Lindsay and Alfred Noyes, as well). As far as academia is
>>>> concerned, their poetry never existed. And, due to the absurd U.S.
>>>> copyright term, the Internet can't be counted on to fill the vacuum,
>>>> either.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I'm familiar with some of Lovecraft's poetry, but nothing by Smith
>>>> or the others. It would be great if you could put some more of them on
>>>> TPB..
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I'll start searching those authors today; thanks for the leads.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I can use some poetry by Lovecraft, since he died in 1937, which
>>>> makes all the work he published in his lifetime in the public domain in
>>>> Canada.. Unfortunately, though, like Howard his poetry doesn't seem to
>>>> have been collected in book form until the mid-1950s, which makes it all
>>>> under copyright in the U.S. for at least another 30 years.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On the bright side, his fans haven't let that stop them from putting
>>>> it on the Net, and the copyright holders seem to be lax about having it
>>>> taken down. There are a lot of sites that have printed Lovecraft's
>>>> poetry, of which this one looks like the most comprehensive
>>>> > >
>>>> > > http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/#poetry
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, the fans of H.P. Lovecraft are, oddly, similar to those of the
>>>> Grateful Dead, and the copyright holders seem to have similar stances as
>>>> far as letting the material be presented on the fan sites, et cetera...
>>>> the slightly harder to find works, and in the case of the Dead, almost
>>>> every performance has been recorded in some form or another.
>>>> >
>>>> I changed the subject header, BTW, in the hope of making the Lovecraft
>>>> links easier to find in a search later.
>>>> > Another poet I've been reading, actually pointed out to be by Lisa
>>>> Scarboro from her "Poratble Beat" volume is the very obscure Beatnik
>>>> poet Ray Bremser, who pretty much began and ended his poetry career with
>>>> one 1965 small press chapbook:
>>>> >
>>>> > anyway, funk is when
>>>> > thelonious monk peeps
>>>> > above the bamboo shades
>>>> > to see the piana setting there,
>>>> > bald and bold ... monk looks at it,
>>>> > while the bass run and the drummer
>>>> > bugs him with the cymbal ... 6 days sleepless ...
>>>> > monk looks ... perfectly zonked and
>>>> > loafing on the stool ... he looks
>>>> > and looks
>>>> > and the bass and drummer meet
>>>> > like flys making it on the mid-air,
>>>> > attracting, (at least,) the ears
>>>> > of monk, who lifts his hands
>>>> > and lets them fall on the keys in
>>>> > commentary; with whut's funk.
>>>> > -Ray Bremser
>>>> >
>>>> > Read more at:
>>>> > http://www.blacklistedjournalist.com/column74g.html
>>>> >
>>>> > [POEMS OF MADNESS was originally published in 1965 by PAPER BOOK
>>>> GALLERY and reprinted by WATER ROW PRESS, PO Box 438, Sudbury, MA 01776.
>>>> These excerpts from POEMS OF MADNESS appears here with the permission of
>>>> Jeffrey Weinberg, publisher of WATER ROW PRESS and literary executor of
>>>> the poet's estate.]
>>>> >
>>>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Bremser
>>>> >
>>>> > "Ray Bremser (February 22, 1934 - November 3, 1998) was an American
>>>> poet. Bremser was born in Jersey City, New Jersey. He began writing
>>>> poetry there and sent copies to Allen Ginsberg, Gregory Corso and LeRoi
>>>> Jones (Imamu Amear Baraka), who published his poems in 'Yugen' and threw
>>>> a big party for him when he got out of jail in 1958..."
>>>> Thanks for the leads. I've added Bremser into PPP, using the wiki
>>>> article, and adding a few links (including the one to the above book)
>>>> and a video.. I compiled a new bibliography: turns out he published at
>>>> least 6 books, right up to his death in the late 90s. As a bonus, I even
>>>> found (and referenced) a mention of him in a Dylan poem:
>>>>
>>>> http://pennyspoetry.wikia.com/wiki/Ray_Bremser
>
>>> Quite interesting back story....!!
>
>> Good morning, Zod, great to see you again.
>
> And Tally Ho to you as well, old pal....!

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