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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating itself emulating DDD Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 15:32:44 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <95dfcfe45b6318fbe82dd954fcb693d5b8841081@i2pn2.org> References: <vhdd32$oq0l$1@dont-email.me> <vht1c8$1pgbs$1@dont-email.me> <8c25d20279cfad6662137025897575068e10fe39@i2pn2.org> <vhvdac$28qs1$2@dont-email.me> <7ccf1daed71803939ed9acc5dc0f436e46bbfba2@i2pn2.org> <vi3hj5$3ad5d$1@dont-email.me> <d69b59d8743dd2713e16ca41604ff30b4741b82d@i2pn2.org> <GcudnQRbD7HyPNv6nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <vi72fe$dbk$1@dont-email.me> <vi76pj$106j$2@dont-email.me> <db87472521a4e553e992c6933a235dec24fb002f@i2pn2.org> <vi8g7t$85ij$1@dont-email.me> <ee397fde844b6e8f2266885eb1b657ad4da768f8@i2pn2.org> <via50f$ju6v$1@dont-email.me> <349430b1223591beb2ebea42b5f3a9e64ea8d795@i2pn2.org> <via6qe$ju6v$5@dont-email.me> <f4f759fcc2f0b701a91e38062c25d16534e470af@i2pn2.org> <via804$kfnn$1@dont-email.me> <39d1fae0d0e03ceb82a6a7c722581d5e84d4998f@i2pn2.org> <via9kk$kpf2$1@dont-email.me> <6f73ca664f7017ea34651a485a4bd3602e9cbe57@i2pn2.org> <vilrih$3n2q7$2@dont-email.me> <b961b7e79a85fcb3bbd058930fef41e582f7acdd@i2pn2.org> <vio31i$dg23$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 15:32:44 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1209011"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3821 Lines: 38 Am Tue, 03 Dec 2024 17:08:34 -0600 schrieb olcott: > On 12/3/2024 3:03 AM, joes wrote: >> Am Mon, 02 Dec 2024 20:48:49 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>> On 11/28/2024 1:48 PM, joes wrote: >>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:35:16 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>>> On 11/28/2024 11:32 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:07:16 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 10:51 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:47:10 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 10:27 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Am Thu, 28 Nov 2024 10:16:15 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/28/2024 4:04 AM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Am Wed, 27 Nov 2024 19:15:41 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/2024 8:03 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/24 8:28 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/2024 6:14 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> If HHH halts at all, it needs to return that HHH halts. >>>>>>> DDD emulated by any HHH cannot possibly halt. >>>>>>> You can fail to understand that, you can lie about that, it >>>>>>> remains immutably a verified fact none-the-less. >>>>>> Yes, HHH can't simulate itself. >>>>> The code proves that HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD why lie? >>>> The code proves that HHH aborts. >>> You said: >>> >>> HHH can't simulate itself. >>> That is WRONG !!! >>> HHH DOES EMULATE ITSELF PROVING THAT IT CAN EMULATE ITSELF. >> We know that HHH halts. It doesn't simulate itself halting. > Please try and explain how you are not dishonest what you try to change > the subject from my rebuttal of your statement: > >>> HHH can't simulate itself. > That HHH does emulate itself emulating DDD proves THAT IT CAN DO THIS. I'm not changing the subject. HHH is a decider, right? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.