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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:07:10 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <95e881254ae93d424b20ebb8a3431a30a0903d6a@i2pn2.org> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <af54371f-192d-4fb5-a3f7-76c3d329bffd@att.net> <vhqt4q$1b873$1@dont-email.me> <ba4f8baf-7378-403e-a837-39f5c0145a93@att.net> <vhs58b$1krl6$2@dont-email.me> <9e03d68c-ae1e-4e2f-8004-55e6f89adb98@att.net> <cbac19e1-c2fe-47d0-84ce-88000729988c@tha.de> <96af151c-285d-4161-842a-63019cac9699@att.net> <vhti1v$1r2tr$2@dont-email.me> <a7ec6cd4-3a9b-4671-8594-56586c0ce917@att.net> <vhvbs4$28n6o$2@dont-email.me> <09f8a86f-3f75-4af8-a190-0def76c1ab82@att.net> <vhvviq$2bjrd$1@dont-email.me> <68dc9b71-cf5d-4614-94e2-8a616e722a63@att.net> <vi03un$2cv9g$1@dont-email.me> <67d9867b-2614-4475-975c-938bafca5c00@att.net> <vi1vep$2pjuo$1@dont-email.me> <a4ab640d-e482-42b0-bfb8-f3690b935ce1@att.net> <vi41rg$3cj8q$1@dont-email.me> <d124760c-9ff9-479f-b687-482c108adf68@att.net> <vi56or$3j04f$1@dont-email.me> <4a810760-86a1-44bb-a191-28f70e0b361b@att.net> <vi6uc3$3v0dn$4@dont-email.me> <b2d7ee1f-33ab-44b6-ac90-558ac2f768a7@att.net> <vi7tnf$4oqa$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:07:10 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="195816"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3728 Lines: 44 Am Wed, 27 Nov 2024 20:59:43 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 27.11.2024 16:57, Jim Burns wrote: >> On 11/27/2024 6:04 AM, WM wrote: > >> However, >> one makes a quantifier shift, unreliable, to go from that to ⛔⎛ there >> is an end segment such that ⛔⎜ for each number (finite cardinal) ⛔⎝ the >> number isn't in the end segment. > > If all endsegments are infinite then infinitely > many natbumbers remain in all endsegments. Yes. > Infinite endsegments with an empty intersection are excluded by > inclusion monotony. Not by intersecting infinitely many segments. > Because that would mean infinitely many different > numbers in infinite endsegments. Weird way to put it. >> Each end.segment is infinite. > That means it has infinitely many numbers in common with every other > infinite endsegment. If not, then there is an infinite endsegment with > infinitely many numbers but not with infinitely many numbers in common > with other infinite endsegments. Contradiction by inclusion monotony. That is true. >> Their intersection of all is empty. These claims do not conflict. > It conflicts with the fact, that the endsegments can lose elements but > never gain elements. They are infinite, they don't need to gain elements. >>> In an infinite endsegment numbers are remaining. >>> In many infinite endsegments infinitely many numbers are the same. >> And the intersection of all, which isn't any end.segment, is empty. > Wrong. Up to every endsegment the intersection is this endsegment. Up to > every infinite endsegment the intersection is infinite. This cannot > change as long as infinite endsegments exist. I.e. never. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.