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From: mpsilvertone@yahoo.com (HarryLime)
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Subject: Re: Usenet newsgroups 2025
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 18:54:24 +0000
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 18:44:14 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 18:18:36 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 17:46:36 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 17:31:13 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 16:49:49 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 16:02:55 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 15:29:55 +0000, Will-Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  > > On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 7:05:08 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>  > > A silly young burro named Bobby
>>>>>>>  > > Joined a poetry group for a hobby.
>>>>>>>  > > His output was thin,
>>>>>>>  > > But he tried to fit in
>>>>>>>  > > By acting exceedingly snobby.
>>>>>>>  > >
>>>>>>>  > Robert Burrows wrote:
>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>  > A silly old fool named Dance
>>>>>>>  > Once again pulled down his pants
>>>>>>>  > No one expressed any shock
>>>>>>>  > At the smallness of his c*ck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's not forget that Robert Burrows came back with poetry of his own.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it can be noted that Burrows didn't just go away crying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one is saying that he did, Donkey.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, you intentionally created a toxic atmosphere here, which ended up
>>>>>> driving *everyone* away.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, that's a lie, Pendragon.
>>>>>
>>>>> It all begins when you, Jim Senetto and Nancy Gene decided to try to
>>>>> drive Stephan Pickering from the newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>> You have a short memory, Donkey.  It began back in the early 2000s when
>>>> you were annoying everyone with your ongoing tales of a pizza boi,
>>>> calling yourself "Irony Waves" and discussing how black pussy tastes
>>>> different from its Caucasian counterpart, starting flame wars with
>>>> Karla, PJR, Michael Cooke, Dennis Hammes, and everyone else in the group
>>>> at that time.
>
> No, I don't think I ever started a flame war but I never ran from one.
>
> The complete a.a.p.c. Usenet newsgroup archives can be read and
> responded to on JLA Forums if you want to try to prove me wrong:
>
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=633422563
>
>>>> As for the late, unlamented Pickles, you brought him into the group to
>
> Wrong again, Pendragon.
>
> Stephan Pickering came to this Usenet newsgroup on.
>
> This is an archived fact, look it up:
>
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=633422563
>
>>>> replace me as your ally -- when I finally wised up and realized who the
>>>> real trolls were.
>>>>
>>>> I initially attempted to draw Pickles into several conversations.  After
>>>> having ignored my first few attempts, he suddenly launched into one of
>>>> his patented, incomprehensible tirades about Christian dupes, child
>>>> molestation, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Pickle's only attempts at writing poetry, turned out to have been copied
>>>> nearly verbatim from well known writers, changing only enough words to
>>>> thwart any attempts to pull the originals up on a Google search.
>>>>
>>>> Pickles was an unwitting shill for you.  You knew that his inflammatory
>>>> outbursts would draw the negative attention away from you -- which is
>>>> precisely why you brought him here.
>>>>
>>>> You're still trying to use him right here and now as a means of
>>>> deflecting my fire.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From there, you and your troll thug wannabe attempted and sometimes
>>>>> succeeded in driving other poets away from Usenet.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know who was responsible for driving the illiterate, formerly
>>>> homeless redneck known as Vinyl Cat from the group, but she brought that
>>>> on herself.  (Details provided in other threads.)  As with Pickles,
>>>> you're still using her to deflect fire from yourself.
>>>>
>>>> But then tossing friends under the bus has always been the Donkey way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> All that ended with the demise of Google Groups apparently, and if you
>>>>> guys are happy with Facebook, go for it.
>>>>
>>>> Happy?  I'm downright thrilled.  Out year end issue is chock full of top
>>>> notch poetry, color artwork, and award-winning poets.  We had an amazing
>>>> year, with contributions from Scott Thomas, Louise Webster, Bruce
>>>> Boston, Robert Cabeen, Carlos Deleon, Jefferson Carter, Ruth Housman,
>>>> Trinity Venter, and other established poets gracing our pages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, the Usenet newsgroup AAPC continues and will continue, and
>>>>> hopefully will grow during 2025.
>>>>
>>>> Right... over the past 12 months, you've grown from approximately 12
>>>> members to 3.  Kudos.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> You and George not only launched threads attacking Bobby, but created
>>>>>> similar threads attacking everyone who wasn't a member of your "team."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, you, Nancy Gene and Jim Senetto were doing that as far back as
>>>>> 2017.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems now that you're trying to misrepresent and lie about what
>>>>> happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> The truth is in the archives.
>>>>
>>>> And you'd been doing it as far back as 2002.
>>>
>>> Usenet newsgroups have always had flame wars, it comes with the
>>> territory.
>>>
>>>>>> I originally came to this group to promote my just-published poetry
>>>>>> collection in 2010.  At that time, AAPC was a wasteland -- much as it is
>>>>>> today, only the dozens of spam posts advertising drugs have been
>>>>>> replaced by dozens of spam posts of Stinky G slurping your poetry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I returned a few years later when the spam quotient had drastically been
>>>>>> reduced, and when there seemed to be more than two members (you and
>>>>>> George, of course) desperately in search of a conversation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I came here to post and discuss poetry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same here.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, the atmosphere was so toxic, that I was forced to pick a
>>>>>> side in an ongoing flame war, which proved to be a colossal waste of
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since you lost the flavor war, right.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, Donkey, but I've no recollection of this "flavor war."
>>>> Please remind me as to which flavor I supported (I'm guessing vanilla,
>>>> pumpkin spice, or pistachio) and which flavor (or flavors) won out over
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Because I realized what Usenet AAPC *could* become, I stuck around and
>>>>>> did my best to create a much more attractive atmosphere that would
>>>>>> attract, rather than repel, poets.
>>>>>
>>>>> You did your best to drive some poets away, Pendragon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?
>>>>
>>>> Why do you keep repeating the same old whines, Donkey?
>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, the toxicity here only worsened, to the point at which it
>>>>>> sank into an all-out state of no-hold-barred warfare.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was by your choice, Pendragon.
>>>>
>>>> It was a last ditch attempt to bring you to the table, Donkey.
>>>>
>>>> When it was just you annoying everyone, we had nothing to bargain with.
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