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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable. Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 09:53:49 +0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <9810f381018797df92f66066e96a63386071658b.camel@gmail.com> References: <789da1c7da825d24f5298891efae209a44535ca5.camel@gmail.com> <0cf5c2dd4c7f1042c1d52ea45a30847ea4bc3e38.camel@gmail.com> <veaved$3jher$1@dont-email.me> <bd415cc46f2a87bb642028be2e99b999e8c7c6fd.camel@gmail.com> <vec20n$3jher$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 03:53:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8829f17768153cab3daf317b51752472"; logging-data="10912"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+814p9VTmp7dsTtDUhwK+j" User-Agent: Evolution 3.50.2 (3.50.2-1.fc39) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2oAru9QoDAqIov27gUnXfQjA/74= In-Reply-To: <vec20n$3jher$3@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2573 On Fri, 2024-10-11 at 21:32 +0100, Andy Walker wrote: > On 11/10/2024 18:11, wij wrote: > > Archimedes likely believes that all (real) numbers, including pi, sqrt(= 2), are > > p/q representable. Is that what you suggest? >=20 > By the time of Archimedes it had been known for several hundred > years that "sqrt(2)" is irrational.=C2=A0 [The status of "pi" remained un= known > for a further ~2K years.]=C2=A0 So no, Archimedes did not believe that, n= ot > least when he laid some of the foundations of calculus. That is a fabrication (there are many, but... accepted, as a fabrication) > > Archimedean axiom is an *assertion* that infinitesimal does not exist w= ithout > > knowing the consequence (violating Wij's Theorem which is provable from= the rules > > stronger than 'assertion'). >=20 > If "Wij's Theorem" is inconsistent with the axioms of real numbers, > then it is not a theorem of real numbers.=C2=A0 Try one of the other syst= ems of > numbers, which you would probably find more to your taste, given the othe= r > things you say in this group. Are you kidding? "x>0 iff x/n >0, where n=E2=88=88=E2=84=A4=E2=81=BA" is in= consistent? With your real, yes. My real is based on the abacus that can be physically modeled. Tell me, how= can=20 it be inconsistent?=20