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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <JL@gct.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Disgraceful! Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 09:56:43 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <98tcpj150alljouji63t7jo250pkuli5o8@4ax.com> References: <kf6cpjldcids4liui3idp1i2tsmli1e47k@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:56:46 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="26a46293cdafe0e3110295d95e694079"; logging-data="7952"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+of7eUfHUSoPuZCXPpGjMC" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:+pjoZPCFnh6w4J3+rG7T+F5dbgM= Bytes: 2042 On Sun, 26 Jan 2025 11:29:00 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote: >Gentlemen, > >I never ceases to amaze me that for all I've learned about the theory >side of electronics over the years, my construction skills have not >improved one iota since I was about 10 years old. Case in point: > >https://disk.yandex.com/i/zGA2slnrNWqGjQ > >I cobbled this board up to automatically turn on the water supply when >the soil moisture fell below a certain amount. I've got 240V/10A wires >juxtaposed next to low voltage signal interconnects and components >with the insulation smeared through by careless use of a soldering >iron all secured with blobs of hot melt glue and many of the component >lead ends close to shorting out. It's obvious I've paid scant regard >to layout considerations as you can tell. I'm posting this so John >Larkin can see for himself that having the ability to visualize 3-D >apples with insects etc is of no help whatsoever in laying out boards. Works for me. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kmjfxcvsix8fwmcyy6map/T840_E1.jpg?rlkey=tbvmyna46bkfxc3lc6a6yv64q&raw=1