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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: is Vax addressing sane today Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 01:23:35 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <99a0cb31e035ff7cbd4ce5228635c1f3@www.novabbs.org> References: <vbd6b9$g147$1@dont-email.me> <09ce1622b872f0b0fa944e868a8c97be@www.novabbs.org> <vbnisc$2hb59$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep10.094353@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vckf9d$178f2$1@dont-email.me> <O2DHO.184073$kxD8.113118@fx11.iad> <e290e18a59651f93e4b46f4839713b1c@www.novabbs.org> <vcnkrt$1p6a3$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2946286"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="65wTazMNTleAJDh/pRqmKE7ADni/0wesT78+pyiDW8A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: ac58ceb75ea22753186dae54d967fed894c3dce8 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$qF.WoiyDboT0lVtN6oMNT.miqTiqvkjLC2t09YSWdmMNE4EAlW7oK Bytes: 1821 Lines: 14 On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 23:29:01 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 20:39:38 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > >> In the days before <good> branch prediction having a conditional branch >> after each instruction that could have an execution problem was an >> extremely poor choice. Thus, exceptions were invented (circa 1958). > > So all that does is push the conditional branch into the microcode. And > make the instruction more complicated. Why should that be faster? It pushes the branch into the mispredict-recovery path and does not occupy any code space. There is no microcode outside of Z-system these days.