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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2024 08:35:54 +0000 Subject: Re: The joy of Linux Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <vfamtn$21039$1@dont-email.me> <vfbo4u$28v56$5@dont-email.me> <vfcft1$2ftu7$1@dont-email.me> <vfcgcv$2g0g1$3@dont-email.me> <nv2dnXjQd4-8foT6nZ2dnZfqn_sAAAAA@earthlink.com> <vfcptl$2hjp4$1@dont-email.me> <CCadnQ4B-oXSboT6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vfebuf$2pkdl$4@dont-email.me> <Os6dnedZ6uqxbof6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <nCQSO.297925$EEm7.62385@fx16.iad> <lo2as5Fj476U1@mid.individual.net> <qn_SO.297938$EEm7.187626@fx16.iad> <vfif3b$3m055$4@dont-email.me> <y7aTO.203218$WtV9.22893@fx10.iad> <vfl257$bic6$4@dont-email.me> <vfmbct$jekn$9@dont-email.me> <VjKdnS8_KJVnhIL6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vfn6b5$rnim$1@dont-email.me> <69FTO.586561$1m96.459888@fx15.iad> <vfppt4$1e6i2$2@dont-email.me> <DV9UO.301899$kxD8.191069@fx11.iad> <vfrtp4$1p8n1$4@dont-email.me> <slrnvifj6t.2m9fn.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <vgahkt$ul44$11@dont-email.me> <20241104142659.0000090c@gmail.com> <vgd807$1hvn6$2@dont-email.me> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 03:35:53 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vgd807$1hvn6$2@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <9LicnYvYUKH3t7b6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 64 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-iSjP1XCrXWHbZmZozAMQfFtk7Xy/GC0xIkFA5ezbznFHpR0HrvRbG0q/ZWk9XkyZPzR1/nIlTRr8/k/!i3vWRZqGww0KFH5edjLdUsIi+Ii9XprETFvIGKynV1D9iKxYauo0D4hJJxQ+oI09G69OZzxSgE/m!QOe9/PSSVdMjt3rLpTui X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4354 On 11/5/24 8:53 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 04/11/2024 22:26, John Ames wrote: >> On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 13:19:25 +0000 >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> But one has to ask what in fact a desktop OS is for these days. >> >> Any damn thing you please, no walled gardens needed, thankyouverymuch. >> >>> The 'home PC' is now a fondleslab, TV or smartphone. >> >> People have been nattering about "the death of the PC" for upwards of >> twelve years now - and they're still here. >> > Yes, but they are no longer the goto for an IT illiterate consumer. > > A desktop workstation is in use by people in business, by designers, and > by hard core realtime 3D gamers. > > Everything else has gone touchy-feely-crappy. > > That's changed the dynamic of 'what in fact a desktop OS is for these days' > > I didn't mean there wasn't a need for one: Just that as desktops move > into more professional areas, they way they work doesn't need to be so > 'chrome and tailfin' > > Microsoft is keeping the PC market alive by introducing new code that > wont run on old hardware. Apple is the same. > > So the second hand market is flooded with dirt cheap PCS that wont run > win11 or whatever. > > I think this will in the end drive some applications to run on Linux as > well as windows and OSX > > Or windows will as someone else pointed out, be simply a certified WINE > interface. > > The only thing that windows can do, but its a very important thing, is > to runs specialist 3rd party programs. You're not entirely wrong. 'PCs' are heavily 'game' oriented now. With gigabit+ internet in many places MOST ordinary/biz users can get by with the "thin terminal" model. All the real work is done "out there" on some corps supercluster. Back to the 70s ! Which makes them your masters/owners. But few think about that. Like, what could go wrong ? Alas this current, defective, paradigm means that even Linux/Unix servers and workstations get degraded by another notch in the big scheme of things. MIGHT be time to push into a "two worlds" paradigm - "cloud" -vs- "local".