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From: Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: EI mew ;abeling regulations June 20th 2025
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On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:47:44 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
<usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

>Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 17:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 16:45:14 -0000 (UTC), Tweed
>>>> <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> Pamela wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wasn't there also a requirement for the battery to be user replaceable?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not in effect for a couple of years, I think ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://environment.ec.europa.eu/news/new-law-more-sustainable-circular-and-safe-batteries-enters-force-2023-08-17_en
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2027, though I can?t find an exact date. Not just phones either. 
>>>> 
>>>> Electric vehicles? 
>>>> 
>>> I don?t think so. Things like power tools, radios, toothbrushes etc. A user
>>> replaceable EV battery could be quite a dangerous affair. 
>> 
>> It might improve the residual value though. 
>> 
>Unlikely. Batteries are around £2500 per 10kWhr retail judging by the cost
>of a house battery. 

Would it not allow an aftermarket for generic batteries instead of
being bound by the OEM? I was offered a second hand Zoe at a very low
price at one stage but when I realised the battery arrangements (lease
from Renault) and the very low range of such a model I dismissed the
idea very quickly.