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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: The actual code of HHH Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 18:47:57 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <9b4f34b56d46274d2ef819d313770251aff04b65@i2pn2.org> References: <f73c3b97590a4d189e33a2cf255ed3337e56d3cf@i2pn2.org> <vpo6v9$2p51t$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 23:47:58 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1948223"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vpo6v9$2p51t$1@dont-email.me> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3514 Lines: 52 On 2/26/25 6:09 PM, olcott wrote: > On 2/26/2025 3:52 PM, joes wrote: >> Since there is so much talk around, but not really about it, >> let's take a look: >> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/ >> 48b4cbfeb3f486507276a5fc4e9b10875ab24dbf/Halt7.c#L1081 >> In line 1137, we compute a flag: >> u32 Root = Init_Halts_HH(&Aborted, &execution_trace, &decoded, &code_end, >> (u32)P, &master_state, &slave_state, &slave_stack); >> In line 918, we find it basically checks for the magic number >> **execution_trace==0x90909090. What is this unexplained value? >> >> We then pass the saved flag in line 1143: >> if (Decide_Halting_HH(&Aborted, &execution_trace, &decoded, >> code_end, End_Of_Code, &master_state, &slave_state, &slave_stack, Root)), >> defined in line 1030. >> Then we get a switch: >> 1059 if (Root) // Master UTM halt decider >> Line 1070 is then conditionally skipped: >> Needs_To_Be_Aborted_HH((Decoded_Line_Of_Code*)**execution_trace); >> defined in line 1012, which (on a jmp or call instruction) calls >> u32 Needs_To_Be_Aborted_Trace_HH(Decoded_Line_Of_Code* execution_trace, >> Decoded_Line_Of_Code *current) >> in line 964, where the abort logic lives. (It basically triggers >> on a call or jump to itself.) >> >> So we only abort depending on the address of the execution trace. >> This makes no sense. Why is that? >> > > DD emulated by HHH according to the behavior that the x86 > machine code of DD cannot possibly terminate normally thus > HHH is infallibly correct to report that this DD emulated > by HHH (not any other DD in the whole freaking universe) > is not-terminating. > No, HHH doesn't see the actual behavior define by the x86 processor, as it aborts its simulaiton before it gets there. You just don't know what "correct" means, Your problem is that no HHH can correctly simulate this input and be a decider, so your premise that it is one is just a blantant lie. Your logic has been shown to be built on Strawmen, lies, ignoring of the rules of the system, and just sheer ignorance of the meaning of the terms, showing how utterly stupid you are. Your THINK HHH is infallibly correct to report this, but you have been shown the proof that it is incorrect, just proving that it is a PROVEN FACT that what has been established is that you are just a PATHOLOGICAL LYING FRAUD who is soo stupid they can't understand that they are that stupid.