Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz)
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity
Subject: Re: Relativity is a pseudoscience II. The Hafele-Keating HOAX,
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 18:44:46 +0000
Organization: novaBBS
Message-ID: <9bb294da761e3dccc1c98c10daa069f0@www.novabbs.com>
References: <dad338831baa98f3eb1ca50452fd9401@www.novabbs.com> <be051db4136835108537c9497c5dfab8@www.novabbs.com> <e766d5b3f2f87f9604f0937ad65a4284@www.novabbs.com> <3fddf5a7bc291abaf2bc49d856d87fcb@www.novabbs.com> <45ca134f20b357d137e34b1fcdd80764@www.novabbs.com> <f4ec6c0220ab548a18740c2680d12dee@www.novabbs.com> <631323acf0c3dda0238e7c216ad843ab@www.novabbs.com> <8fe67191e5d71c706cc50c05e95ee23b@www.novabbs.com> <67bd6e19bb1d0337420a99583f647508@www.novabbs.com> <70c184ff68360069eb636416a2ccffb1@www.novabbs.com> <cdd2c298f8ae5022cb50ad1287207140@www.novabbs.com> <72cde964ccfe5b20e307a7770bbd04d5@www.novabbs.com> <2ef1c0ab9cbbceabe5767d992dd73c4d@www.novabbs.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Info: i2pn2.org;
	logging-data="2678016"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org";
	posting-account="hWiuCAeR3KEZYJfTvV11n0qrRi6oqW/zjvEZQQGun9A";
User-Agent: Rocksolid Light
X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$q.ZmfOiLLAooU5s9FWy.euZLKLz08y97efeQXxEi6xmOWTLZEEh9S
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0
X-Rslight-Posting-User: f685b96694175b2ad43ead343ead0a9c0082fe88
Bytes: 4461
Lines: 80

*****************************************************
TO ACHIEVE SUCH INFO EXCHANGE, A GLOBAL NETWORK FOR TIME SHOULD HAVE
> EXISTED, IN ORDER TO DISCOUNT THE TRAVEL TIME OF THE DATA BETWEEN (I.E.)
> TOKIO AND WASHINGTON!  EVEN TODAY, USING GPS SYNC AND 1-WAY MICROWAVE
> LINKS (THROUGH SATELLITES) WOULD FAIL, BECAUSE THE GLOBAL GPS TIME HAS
> AN AVERAGE SYNC TIME OF +/- 10 NANOSECONDS (ALMOST 25% OF THE
> DIFFERENCE).
>
> WHY DO YOU PERSIST INSISTING ON THIS?


Why do you presist in deluding yourself that I believe such nonsense?
***********************************************

You DON'T GET MY POINT AT ALL!

Example if experiment is repeated today (forget GPS and alike).

You are in Tokyo and want to send THE EXACT READING of each clock to
USNO in Washington.

Fiber optic links are widely available, with a delay of about 120 msec
PLUS random delays in the repeaters (suppose one repeater every 500 Km).
You also have to account for random delays in the DWDM devices, which
accommodate several optic flows up to several Thz (I discussed this with
Paul many years ago).

The accepted error (today) in the end-end sync is about +/- 10 nsec.
This is a huge error marge if you try to transmit a reading of

50 hours and 0,544548016 nanoseconds

to the USNO in Washington, where both clocks average a time of:

50 hours and 0,544548059 nanoseconds (there is a loss of time).

The delay, to be added to the USNO incoming data (from Tokyo) is:

 0.120356 seconds +/- 3%


As you can see, the difference between clocks IS MASKED by the errors in
the delay Tokyo-USNO. So, transmitting time data in real time, in the
nanoseconds range, is USELESS due to the huge uncertainty involved.


And there is ANOTHER THEORETICAL FACTOR FROM SR:

In Lorentz transforms, you have to account the factor -vx/c^2 from the
formula of Lorentz´s time. Paul forgot to account this, years ago.

And I don't see this factor in the H-K formulae, also.


So, for me, the manipulation of statistical data and incorrect setups
for the experiment (it involves more than 9,000 annotations about local
readings with the HP 5063 A at USNO and H-K). There is a lot of ground
for FRAUDULENT MANIPULATION OF THE COLLECTED INFO.

--------------------------------------------------------

I ask you that reason about this possible outcome:


What would have happened IF the H-K experiment didn't go accord to
expectations?

What the media and academia would say (and ACT ACCORDINGLY) if the main
news in the media was:

BREAKING NEWS:

EINSTEIN'S THEORY DISPROVED BY HAFELE AND KEATING, WITH THE SUPPORT OF
THE US NAVY. PHYSICS WORLD IN SHOCK. SCIENTISTS FROM THE ENTIRE WORLD
DEVASTATED BY THE SHOCKING NEWS. PHYSICS HAS TO BE RETHINK ENTIRELY, BUT
NO IDEAS YET.



Do you understand why "Einstein's right" is repeated every time and
everywhere?