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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2025 19:37:59 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <9bc16d12f953a5b28468e58992c7ce55a174c09d@i2pn2.org> References: <vq5qqc$1j128$2@dont-email.me> <vq6l3k$1r2p8$1@dont-email.me> <vq72iv$1tapm$3@dont-email.me> <vqbkqs$2t20u$1@dont-email.me> <vqcvhm$34c3r$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2025 00:37:59 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3193786"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <vqcvhm$34c3r$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3132 Lines: 55 On 3/6/25 3:11 PM, olcott wrote: > On 3/6/2025 2:02 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2025-03-04 14:26:39 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 3/4/2025 4:36 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2025-03-04 03:07:56 +0000, olcott said: >>>> >>>>> int DD() >>>>> { >>>>> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >>>>> if (Halt_Status) >>>>> HERE: goto HERE; >>>>> return Halt_Status; >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> _DD() >>>>> [00002133] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>> [00002134] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>> [00002136] 51 push ecx ; make space for local >>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD >>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) >>>>> [00002141] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>>> [00002144] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax >>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 >>>>> [0000214b] 7402 jz 0000214f >>>>> [0000214d] ebfe jmp 0000214d >>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04] >>>>> [00002152] 8be5 mov esp,ebp >>>>> [00002154] 5d pop ebp >>>>> [00002155] c3 ret >>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] >>>>> >>>>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly >>>>> reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally. >>>>> >>>>> The only valid rebuttal is to show all of the steps of >>>>> exactly how DD correctly emulated by HHH reaches its >>>>> own "ret" instruction. >>>> >>>> The question whether DD emulated by HHH exists is too uninteresting >>>> that >>>> it would need a rebuttal, and so is the question that does it reach its >>>> "ret" instruction if it exsists. >>>> >>> >>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly >>> reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally. >>> *Proves that the input to HHH(DD) can be rejected as non-halting* >> >> As "DD correctly emulated by HHH" does not exist > > *No one has made any attempt to show that* > > Sure we have, you are just too stupid to understand it.