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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Short Vectors Versus Long Vectors Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 15:52:36 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <9bcb44533f8c4285b6a9ffb8429b0b92@www.novabbs.org> References: <v06vdb$17r2v$1@dont-email.me> <j9ah2jl3oosp9ggvdkskqai9m4nme4qkb4@4ax.com> <2024Apr24.111856@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v0c14g$2ihq5$9@dont-email.me> <v0dgfr$2iai$1@gal.iecc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2335459"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="65wTazMNTleAJDh/pRqmKE7ADni/0wesT78+pyiDW8A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$tsSF/XzPn2uFdJZMCb62SeGHtC4TWEhLRrxAI42sONkNlv4i.J.2. X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: ac58ceb75ea22753186dae54d967fed894c3dce8 Bytes: 2233 Lines: 26 John Levine wrote: > According to Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>: >>On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 09:18:56 GMT, Anton Ertl wrote: >> >>> But the Cray-1 is not an improvement on the Model 195. >> >>The Cray-1 was widely regarded as the fastest computer in the world, when >>it came out. Cruising speed of something over 80 megaflops, hitting bursts >>of about 120. > Its main practical improvement was that you could get two Crays for the price > of one 360/195. (Not exactly, but close enough.) >>IBM did try to compete in the “supercomputer” field for a while longer, >>but I think by about ten years later, it had given up. > IBM had tried to make computers very fast by making them very > complicated. STRETCH was fantastically complex for something built out > of individual transistors. The /91 and /195 had instrucion queues and > reservation stations and loop mode. Cray went in the opposite > direction, making a much simpler computer where each individual bit > down to the chips and the wires, were as fast as possible. > In many ways it was a preview of RISC. Seymore only did fast and simple, starting before the CDC 6600.....