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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Turing Machine computable functions apply finite string transformations to inputs Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 21:28:53 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <9c3b57c69994b0477f8ac216ce6553c5b541b8f1@i2pn2.org> References: <vu6lnf$39fls$2@dont-email.me> <vua9oi$2lub6$1@dont-email.me> <vudkah$1ona3$1@dont-email.me> <vufi61$3k099$1@dont-email.me> <vugddv$b21g$2@dont-email.me> <0a2eeee6cb4b6a737f6391c963386745a09c8a01@i2pn2.org> <vugvr3$pke9$8@dont-email.me> <4818688e0354f32267e3a5f3c60846ae7956bed2@i2pn2.org> <vuj18i$2lf64$6@dont-email.me> <f0d3f2e87d9a4e0b0f445f60a33d529f41a4fcf7@i2pn2.org> <vuj55m$2lf64$10@dont-email.me> <vuj8h3$2uahf$3@dont-email.me> <vujfuu$35hcg$1@dont-email.me> <65dddfad4c862e6593392eaf27876759b1ed0e69@i2pn2.org> <vujlj0$3a526$1@dont-email.me> <vujln7$32om9$8@dont-email.me> <vujmmm$3a526$2@dont-email.me> <vujmrj$32om9$9@dont-email.me> <vujtcb$3gsgr$1@dont-email.me> <vuju44$3hnda$1@dont-email.me> <vuk47o$3qkbb$1@dont-email.me> <vuk6b6$3l184$1@dont-email.me> <vuls34$1bf1j$4@dont-email.me> <vun87k$2m24h$2@dont-email.me> <vunb06$2fjjl$5@dont-email.me> <vuo57j$3h5l9$2@dont-email.me> <vuo68a$3dd6e$1@dont-email.me> <vuo782$3jn5n$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 02:07:42 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2331913"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vuo782$3jn5n$2@dont-email.me> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3290 Lines: 36 On 4/28/25 11:35 AM, olcott wrote: > On 4/28/2025 10:18 AM, dbush wrote: >> On 4/28/2025 11:01 AM, olcott wrote: >>> On 4/28/2025 2:33 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>>> On 28/04/2025 07:46, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>> >>>> <snip> >>>> >>>>> So we agree that no algorithm exists that can determine for all >>>>> possible inputs whether the input specifies a program that >>>>> (according to the semantics of the machine language) halts when >>>>> directly executed. >>>>> Correct? >>>> >>>> Correct. We can, however, construct such an algorithm just as long >>>> as we can ignore any input we don't like the look of. >>>> >>> >>> The behavior of the direct execution of DD cannot be derived >>> by applying the finite string transformation rules specified >>> by the x86 language to the input to HHH(DD). This proves that >> >> The assumption that an H exists that meets the below requirements is >> false, as shown by Linz and others: >> > > I have just proved that those requirements are stupidly wrong > IT IS UTTERLY MORONIC OR DECEITFUL TO DISAGREE WITH THE X86 LANGUAGE > No, all you have proved is that you are a stupid liar. You CLAIM a lot of things, but haven't actually proven anything you have claimeed. Sorry, the only thing that you have actually proved is that you are just an ignorant pathological liar.