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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Most significant advance in bike technology for speed?
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 10:41:54 -0500
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On Mon, 3 Feb 2025 09:54:27 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:

>On 2/3/2025 9:21 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 2/2/2025 10:32 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 12:43:08 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/1/2025 8:58 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> People do make individual decisions based on their individual
>>>>> evaluations of their individual circumstances, abilities etc. by their
>>>>> own individual criteria.  And then they live or die by those decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwbchicago.com/2025/01/garbage-collector-shoots-2-armed- 
>>>>> robbers-
>>>>> outside-elementary-school-killing-1.html
>>>>>
>>>>> In my personal opinion it is not morally superior do die while being
>>>>> robbed. YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> A parallel statement that might be made by other people about spiders,
>>>> snakes, ghosts, enclosed spaces, and dozens of other phobias. Requiring
>>>> a gun to ride on a quiet bike path where young mothers push kids in
>>>> strollers is paranoid. And if I lived somewhere where I needed a gun to
>>>> fend off armed robbers, I'd move.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well... Ohio is only 14 from the top of the list in Robbery Rate
>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/232564/robbery-rate-in-the-us-by- 
>>> state/
>>>
>>> But more perhaps more interesting is how do you know that you " needed
>>> a gun to fend off armed robbers"?
>>>
>>> Until you actually do need it?
>> 
>> On one hand, Poland OH is largely bereft of violent crime:
>> 
>> https://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Poland-Ohio.html
>> (compare to nearby Youngstown in 1st chart)
>
>Youngstown has much more crime than Poland. So does Philadelphia, 
>Cleveland, DC, LA, Atlanta, Oklahoma City, etc etc etc
>
>But I've ridden in all of them, always unarmed. I've ridden in most 
>neighborhoods in Youngstown. The worst crime I ever encountered was to 
>have a cyclometer swiped, once in Poland Township, once in Ireland.
>
>After 70+ years of such experiences, am I really supposed to pretend 
>"This could be the day I'll have to blow somebody away to save my life"?

I haven't seen any suggestions as to what you're supposed to do. As
for me, I favor people making their own choices and otherwise minding
their own business.

>No. At some point, repeatedly fearing something that has never happened 
>crosses over into phobia.

That's from a guy who fears he'd get shot by having a gun in his home.
How often has he been shot because of a gun in his home? 

--
C'est bon
Soloman