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From: wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: "Trip report: June 2025 ISO C++ standards meeting (Sofia,
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On Sun, 2025-06-29 at 16:05 +0000, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 19:40:16 +0800
> wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> gabbled:
> > On Sun, 2025-06-29 at 07:42 +0000, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org=C2=A0wrote:
> > > Oh, so not just sound but speech synthesis! Obviously trivial to impl=
emen=3D
> > t,
> > > why don't you go and do it?
> >=20
> > I had designed and built a sound car. I have all the ability to impleme=
nt w=3D
> > hat
> > I want. But all are not trivial to me.
>=20
> Huh?
>=20
> > > Linux doesn't have a standard built in speech synthesiser. What would=
 you
> > > suggest speaks the words? Or is that a load of having wavey stuff tha=
t is
> > > Someone Elses Problem, you just want the praise for coming up with th=
e=3D
> > =3D20
> > > incredibly original idea, right?
> >=20
> > Speech synthesizer already existed 35 years ago on PC-XT+DOS which only=
=3DC2=3D
> > =3DA0
> > equipped with a buzzer (can only produce '1/0' sound).
> > There are many know-how there. Yes, your doubt is confirmed that you ar=
e id=3D
> > iot.
>=20
> Speech synthesisers existed in the 70s in the Speak and Spell toy, whats
> your point? Its quite clear you don't even understand the problem.
>=20
> > A clue for you. The two-state buzzer can be programmed to simulate anal=
og s=3D
> > ound
> > (bad quality) You know C/C++ does not mean you can really do programmin=
g.
>=20
> "Duh, I can make sound, duh, C++ should just make sound, duh"
>=20
> Its not 1985 any more idiot with you writing 16 bit real mode assembler
> sending I/O to a PC speaker from DOS. You can't just talk to the sound=
=20
> hardware direct with Windows, Mac and Linux, it has to do through the OS =
and=20
> that requires configuration and setup in the program requiring access,=
=20
> something you're apparently completely unaware of. The same applies to=
=20
> graphics. Now why don't you go find a time machine, come forward 40 years=
 to
> 2025 then get yourself a clue.

I can write a speech synthesizer 'utter', like bellow, to say "Hellow, worl=
d".
(Honest, this one would take time for now)

int main() {
 utter << "Hellow, world";
};

I can write a program like below that paint an image and draw a cross.
Most importantly, no graphics library is compiled and needed in the source=
=C2=A0
(all source is pretty much what the several lines shown).

int main() {
 Image imgfile(..);
 Display disp(..);
 disp << imgfile;
 disp << "line(100,200,200,300),line(100,300,200,100),..";
}

What you can do? just mouth -> Oh, not in OS1, OS2,...OS100. Or C/C++,Pytho=
n,C#,
Java,Go,Dust,... have no such thing, non-standard ABC,... Or that need OS/
hardware/BIOS... support,..too complicated... (pretending very knowledgeabl=
e).=20
Finally, 'we' don't need graphics/sound library in C++ !!!
Whatever reason, it cannot be owing to your ignorance.