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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Relativistic aberration Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 20:19:42 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <9f6af7656d5b519c8b95ab67f993a029@www.novabbs.com> References: <QsysQnpetTSlB_zDsjAhnCKqnbg@jntp> <2EXLnr_H9bJJ03uqOqvAke2Stu0@jntp> <40a7f3651fa003ba04b12ddd79ee55b1@www.novabbs.com> <lfp8pbFkr1mU1@mid.individual.net> <277d12ea32119cb16056773223fe1a45@www.novabbs.com> <17e2ff3657424607$138252$505029$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <8c5cae32d7b5302644e335db90064dec@www.novabbs.com> <17e31d9f0ea34274$12530$558427$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <e0281ec04148bf85dfc7103c807d52c4@www.novabbs.com> <17ea6b2dc47c9dec$254539$505064$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <921cee453f06f441f282c56122f8d2e9@www.novabbs.com> <17eab009eee746e7$255287$505064$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <6ec22f20b2a177162a95f6456c430b21@www.novabbs.com> <17eab5fcab72b695$178520$558427$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <f3602324d5cd9eb34b9f3e9aca92a7ca@www.novabbs.com> <17eabed887c83827$276277$505029$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2237708"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="p+/k+WRPC4XqxRx3JUZcWF5fRnK/u/hzv6aL21GRPZM"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 47dad9ee83da8658a9a980eb24d2d25075d9b155 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$uz2WsSeKnnyOUH/b85cbweCP1P0c/gAbolTvYjDnAKODdPa.prJi. Bytes: 3813 Lines: 53 On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 18:07:25 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > W dniu 11.08.2024 o 19:49, gharnagel pisze: > > > > On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 15:25:05 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > > > > > > Exactly, trash. Those alleged clocks having readings > > > as your idiot guru porophecied - exist only in > > > sick delusions of yours and your fellow idiots. > > > > Clocks are human inventions, so smart humans will set > > them to agree with natural phenomena. > > Sorry, trash, they won't. Denigration and prevarication aren't valid arguments. > Anyone can check GPS - oppositely, they will set them > to ignore natutral phenomena. Wozniak asserts that "t' = t" in the GPS system, but he never defines his terms. Sometimes he demands he be told what the clocks in orbit are reading, but he doesn't specify the point where they should be read. Since the system sets the same time over the whole earth, it's obviously not ignoring "natutral phenomena." > > Those that set them to agree with their fantasies > > will be disappointed. > Fortunetely for your bunch of idiots you're > not THAT stupid. You only insist they should > be set to agree with your fantasies, but you're > setting them ordinary way so they indicate > t'=t, like always, and those alleged clocks > "agreeing with natural phenomena" and > "confirming" your idiocies - exist only in > your sick delusions. Sorry to say, but Wozniak appears to be the one with "sick delusions" since motional and gravitational time dilation are confirmed phenomena which would be apparent (in fact, was observed in the first satellite launched) if not engineered to make the orbital clocks agree with ground clocks -- only as observed by the ground clocks. So Wozniak deceives when he claims "anyone can check the GPS" and that they're set the "ordinary way so they t' = t." How does he know they're set "the ordinary way"? He doesn't, of course. All the engineers who designed the system have testified this is not so, but Wozniak, who doesn't know how the system works, vacuously asserts otherwise. Case closed.