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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Major Taylor
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 19:25:17 -0400
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On Fri, 30 May 2025 16:14:50 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 30 May 2025 18:34:34 -0400, Catrike Ryder
><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 30 May 2025 15:24:57 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:15:03 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 30 May 2025 07:46:24 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:59:05 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:47:36 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:25:00 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Fri, 30 May 2025 06:18:01 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>>>>>><Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 29 May 2025 16:36:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>>><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Major Taylor made the cover of The New Yorker magazine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2025-06-02
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>He deserves more recognition than he commonly gets.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>An article in an obscure paywalled leftist magazine isn't going to get
>>>>>>>>>him much recognition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Not really "obscure":
>>>>>>>><https://deadline.com/2025/02/new-yorker-centenary-defies-magazine-downturn-1236296103/>
>>>>>>>>"The New Yorker with its 1.23 million subscribers..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In the USA, they're rated as 21st, after The American Legion Magazine
>>>>>>>and American Rifleman, both of which are also obscure..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Actually, all magazines are obscure, nowdays.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry, forgot  the cite;
>>>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation
>>>>>
>>>>>The Wikipedia circulation list is only up to date to 2016.  See the
>>>>>"This article has multiple issues" box near the top of the page.
>>>>>
>>>>>This list seems a little better:
>>>>>"Top 100 U.S. Magazines by Circulation"
>>>>><http://www1.psaresearch.com/images/TOPMAGAZINES.pdf>
>>>>>The New Yorker is 88 out of 100.  Not great, but hardly obscure.
>>>>
>>>>A million and a half subscribers in a USA population of 3.5 million,
>>>>and some of them are in other countries. 
>>>
>>>You're off by factor of 100.  The US population for 2025 is about 347
>>>million.
>>><https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/>
>>
>>Yeah, I know. That makes the subscription rate even less impressive.
>
>The largest magazine distribution in the USA:
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation#United_States>
>is "AARP The Magazine" at 23.7 million per issue.  By issue, that can
>be per week, per month, per year, quarterly, annual, etc.
>"The following list shows the 100 largest magazines in the United
>States by paid circulation as of 31 December 2023 based on data from
>the Alliance for Audited Media".
>
>3.5 million is smaller than 23.7 million, but hardly "obscure".
>
>You might also notice that "AARP The Magazine" and "The New Yorker"
>address different audiences with different number of prospective
>readers.

It seems that obscurity is a subjective evaluation.  I think the NYer
is obscure. You disagree. I'm OK with that.

--
C'est bon
Soloman