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On 12/26/24 11:57 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 21:41:29 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
>>     Read up on the Italian and Greek city-state eras.
>>     The "town over the hill" was always attacking.
> 
> Thucydides got an Amazon best seller out of it. If the bible can be
> believed the tribal god was big on genocide when somebody else was living
> on the land he gave you. That hasn't changed a bit.


   Nope. Seems to be a 'human nature' thing ... hardwired
   will to dominance.

   We can, sometimes, alter the environment within HOW
   that trait is expressed - but it doesn't go away.
   After a time of peace/unity general dissatisfaction
   seems to grow and eventually overwhelm those engineered
   methods.


> A lot of the petty squabbles were eclipsed by the Thirty Years war but it
> took a Bismarck to put together I don't know how many pissant
> principalities, free cities, and other local turfs after the Holy Roman
> Empire fell apart.

   Things fell apart almost as quickly as they were put
   together. Alliances, sentiments, needs, changed very
   quickly. Kinda 'Game Of Thrones' but without the
   dragons.

   Post-Rome, Europe was a MESS. Only Charlemagne kinda
   glued it together at all - but then almost only by
   the sword. Oddly, I think the Viking invasions did
   more to stabilize things - sort of the 'alien invasion'
   that brought petty gripes and ambitions more onto the
   same wavelength.

   DaVinci's Italy was a constant war between the many
   city states for a long time. The Popes, while
   theoretically the ultimate authorities, instead
   seemed to just profit financially and politically
   from all the chaos and let it go on. Then a
   de Medici became Pope ........

   Greece ... amazing they had TIME to repel the
   Persians - too busy fighting each other.

   "I have stuff. You have stuff. If I take YOUR stuff
   then I'll have twice as much stuff !" - simple logic.